Camaro Chief Engineer says "You're Welcome" to Ford Mustang fans
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Camaro Chief Engineer says "You're Welcome" to Ford Mustang fans
"For Mustang fans, you're welcome. Clearly the Camaro has encouraged Ford to throw everything they can at us."
Camaro Nation:
As you know, the blogs lit up with the announcement of the new 650-horsepower Mustang GT500, and I wanted to give you my perspective on the latest challenge from Dearborn.
The Mustang has been playing catch up since the moment the fifth-gen Camaro arrived in 2009. Since then, Camaro has been the best-selling sports car in America, indicating that consumers know which car offers the best performance, style and safety.
It is no coincidence that Mustang has introduced three 100-horsepower increases to keep pace with Camaro: First their V-6 was bumped to 305; then their V-8 went to 412, and now the GT500.
Even with the 100-hp increase, the 2013 GT500 will still not match the technology and sophistication of the 2012 Camaro ZL1.
The days of "no replacement for displacement," are over, and it's not enough to be fast in a straight line. With the Camaro ZL1, we set out to deliver integrated performance, and be equally good at acceleration, braking, grip, and turning. As you will soon see, that's why the Camaro ZL1 will set the performance benchmark for the segment.
Our approach was to make every Camaro ZL1 fully track-capable, from the factory. As we announced today, the ZL1 Coupe will start at $54,995 with standard Magnetic Ride Control, standard Performance Traction Management, and standard track-capable equipment such as a rear-differential cooler, brake cooling ducts, and an engine and transmission cooler.
None of our customers will have to buy extra options – or modify their ZL1 – for track-day usage. That is not the case for the current GT500, or their new car.
For Mustang fans, you're welcome. Clearly the Camaro has encouraged Ford to throw everything they can at us.
For Camaro fans, trust me, we are always listening to your feedback, and working hard to keep the Camaro in the lead.
Al O.
Camaro Nation:
As you know, the blogs lit up with the announcement of the new 650-horsepower Mustang GT500, and I wanted to give you my perspective on the latest challenge from Dearborn.
The Mustang has been playing catch up since the moment the fifth-gen Camaro arrived in 2009. Since then, Camaro has been the best-selling sports car in America, indicating that consumers know which car offers the best performance, style and safety.
It is no coincidence that Mustang has introduced three 100-horsepower increases to keep pace with Camaro: First their V-6 was bumped to 305; then their V-8 went to 412, and now the GT500.
Even with the 100-hp increase, the 2013 GT500 will still not match the technology and sophistication of the 2012 Camaro ZL1.
The days of "no replacement for displacement," are over, and it's not enough to be fast in a straight line. With the Camaro ZL1, we set out to deliver integrated performance, and be equally good at acceleration, braking, grip, and turning. As you will soon see, that's why the Camaro ZL1 will set the performance benchmark for the segment.
Our approach was to make every Camaro ZL1 fully track-capable, from the factory. As we announced today, the ZL1 Coupe will start at $54,995 with standard Magnetic Ride Control, standard Performance Traction Management, and standard track-capable equipment such as a rear-differential cooler, brake cooling ducts, and an engine and transmission cooler.
None of our customers will have to buy extra options – or modify their ZL1 – for track-day usage. That is not the case for the current GT500, or their new car.
For Mustang fans, you're welcome. Clearly the Camaro has encouraged Ford to throw everything they can at us.
For Camaro fans, trust me, we are always listening to your feedback, and working hard to keep the Camaro in the lead.
Al O.
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Pathetic response. They are basically accepting that Mustang is WINNING performance wise. Defending themselves with the current sales record look really weak in the eyes of true enthusiasts.
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Sick car, It's nice to see Ford and Chevy both have a power monster on the street what good time to be alive right now. I hope in 10 years or so I can afford one of them...
The picture is old, it's them saying you have a choice in which Transmission you want.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-sports-car/
Almost halfway down.
The picture is old, it's them saying you have a choice in which Transmission you want.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1-sports-car/
Almost halfway down.
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Completely subjective and judging from the responses in these threads, most people would prefer the GT500.
This press release screams damage control, along w/ "challenging" Ford at the 'Ring. GM looks desperate; they don't seem so sure if their car is actually better themselves(better in performance that is, they did bring up sales numbers lol)
This press release screams damage control, along w/ "challenging" Ford at the 'Ring. GM looks desperate; they don't seem so sure if their car is actually better themselves(better in performance that is, they did bring up sales numbers lol)
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Agree, not the best response. Perhaps GM could throw something comparable back (they already have the engine .... nudge nudge).
However, I don't remember everyone screaming at Ford when the 5.0 bowed out in 95 to bring the 4.6 2Vs that barely made over 200hp. They handidly out-sold F-bodies and the performance segment (the small group of people on forum boards like this), modified their cars (as they/we will with these new models) to reach their hp needs.
However, I don't remember everyone screaming at Ford when the 5.0 bowed out in 95 to bring the 4.6 2Vs that barely made over 200hp. They handidly out-sold F-bodies and the performance segment (the small group of people on forum boards like this), modified their cars (as they/we will with these new models) to reach their hp needs.
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The days of "no replacement for displacement," are over....WTF, seriously??? so why stuff a 6.2L under the hood when LS motors started out with the 5.7L then got bumped up in displacement over the years....not to mention the Zo6 has a 427. mustangs have the 5.0 and 5.8, and still handing the camaro its *** with a smaller motor. i guess GM has a hard time accepting the old saying of " take your *** kicking like a man"...i really am turned off by the way GM is handling the new gt500!
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But then again, this is America and 1/4 mile is king. That being said, the auto ZL1 is going to be tough to beat in a random street race from a dig.
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The Base/GT Mustang looks better than the Base/SS Camaro, but the ZL1 looks 10x better than the GT500. The Updated styling of the 2011 Mustang gets diluted in the GT500, looking quite the same since 05 IIRC.
Give me the ZL1. 580hp is enough for what I would use it for. If it ever starts to feel slow, I can't imagine 700 fwhp being too difficult to obtain.
Give me the ZL1. 580hp is enough for what I would use it for. If it ever starts to feel slow, I can't imagine 700 fwhp being too difficult to obtain.