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Old 01-17-2012, 12:01 PM
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:14 PM
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not surprised, magnetic ride control as well as the fact that it comes standard with "engine, transmission, and differential all come with standard lubricant coolers. Note that the transmission is further chilled via NACA ducts at the rear of the underbody pan..." you had to know Chevy was setting this thing up for more than 1/4 mile performance.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
ZL1 beats the Mustang BOSS 302 Laguna Seca by 2.4 seconds per lap. Carries more speed in almost every corner. Would have been faster even without the HP advantage....read on.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...2_laguna_seca/
I don't know why they compared the Boss to the ZL!, but it is what it is.
When insideline tested all of the mustangs on the track, on the same day, the GT500 beat the Laguna Seca as well. The 2012 would probably be a good matchup than the Boss.

I don't see much bragging on the quarter mile times, either
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Ford guys always need some type of cruch to lean on...lol What's really gonna hurt is when they test a 12 SS Camaro with it's new suspension package and it outruns the Boss also.
I don't think any of the Ford guys care how the ZL1 stacks up against the Laguna Seca

I would like to see waht it does against the 2012 GT500. I think everyone knows the 2013 is going to smoke the ZL1 at every test.
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Good news.
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Originally Posted by nanokpsi
I don't think any of the Ford guys care how the ZL1 stacks up against the Laguna Seca

I would like to see waht it does against the 2012 GT500. I think everyone knows the 2013 is going to smoke the ZL1 at every test.
Even handling? What does the 2013 (or even 2012) have in terms of suspension that the BOSS doesnt?
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
When the new one comes out they will. IIRC the Boss is faster around the track than the current GT500 anyway.
The only test I have seen on the same day has the GT500 faster, and that is with the crappy diff in the GT500.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
IIRC the Boss is faster around the track than the current GT500 anyway.
Nope, current GT500 was 0.6 faster around a 1.6 mile course (Streets of Willow Springs) where it didn't even get to use it's HP advantage. I would say the two('11-'12 GT500 and ZL1) would be neck and neck, not sure why they didn't test the two. I still can't understand Fords tire choice, wider tires (front and rear) on all of the Mustangs would make a HUGE difference.
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Originally Posted by nanokpsi
I don't know why they compared the Boss to the ZL!, but it is what it is.
When insideline tested all of the mustangs on the track, on the same day, the GT500 beat the Laguna Seca as well. The 2012 would probably be a good matchup than the Boss.

I don't see much bragging on the quarter mile times, either
Well...they ran a 12.1 with it. Last test with a new gt500 was at a 12.3. So its not too bad.

I personally think the new zl1 edges out the 12 GT500 but the 13 gt500 will edge out the 12 zl1. Just the way things go...each company will counter with something better.

If you looked deeper into the vehicle you would also realize how much better engineered the zl1 is for the track compared to the current gt500. It is designed to be raced all day long.
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Originally Posted by TwitchZ28
still not worth that sticker price....
Oh yes it is. 550 plus horsepower and a factory warranty? It's worth it. I spent a lot on my 99 SS Procharger project and there was always a problem.
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this car is proving to be very capable. alot more so than some thought.



i wish i could afford one.
Old 01-17-2012, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
this car is proving to be very capable. alot more so than some thought.



i wish i could afford one.
I was a doubter myself. But it looks like it can out handle the M3. My 09 M3 was a superb canyon carver. So good for GM.
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Im am glad it is living up to all the hype. It would have been VERY bad for GM, had it failed to deliver.
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Originally Posted by LS1-450
No way the ZL1 is a generation ahead of the BOSS Mustang.
Uh, just by virtue that it rides on a modern, clean-sheet structure from Holden, features an independent rear suspension that was a new design, the first car to use the next magnetic suspension system, etc Yes, it is a generation newer (therefore ahead) in engineering at the very least. And in this article it shows. When Ford finally comes out with a new Mustang from the ground-up then the tables will turn.
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Very impressive, but I will be the first to say this.........would have been even better if it was less then 4,000lbs.
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Pretty cool, but not surprised from the results. The Boss is down in power by over 100hp, but I'm surprised that it did as well as it actually did. Also, looks like the ZL1 is actually in the 4,050 pound range, that's a bit lighter than what was originally reported.
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i think the next gen camaro will weigh less in its new platform. I think they already made a new caddy sporting the next platform and it was around 3400lbs iirc

This is actually a good sign for chevy, since the boss was made for turns and handling, and chevy beat em at it. I guess the zl1 still has hope to compete lol
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one thing i think will happen is this will make 5th gens more popular and i expect some enthusiasts to be more accepting of this platform.
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Not surprised by the results. Bring on the GT500.
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Originally Posted by texas94z
Not surprised by the results. Bring on the GT500.
What year? 2013? Careful what you wish for.


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