Motor Trend Pits the Camaro Z/28 Against the Porsche 911 GT3
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Motor Trend Pits the Camaro Z/28 Against the Porsche 911 GT3
Motor Trend Pits the Camaro Z/28 Against the Porsche 911 GT3
I've got to hand it to Chevy. I knew the automaker pulled out all of the stops in making its 2015 Camaro Z/28, but, until today, I wasn't aware of how far doing allowed its car to go. Motor Trend chose the blue-collar bruiser as a competitor to the mighty Porsche 911 GT3 for a duel.
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I've got to hand it to Chevy. I knew the automaker pulled out all of the stops in making its 2015 Camaro Z/28, but, until today, I wasn't aware of how far doing allowed its car to go. Motor Trend chose the blue-collar bruiser as a competitor to the mighty Porsche 911 GT3 for a duel.
Read the rest on the LS1Tech.com homepage. >>
Last edited by DerekShiekhi; 12-29-2014 at 07:08 PM. Reason: Corrections
#4
TECH Enthusiast
ok, what I got out of this.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
#5
ok, what I got out of this.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
#6
TECH Senior Member
ok, what I got out of this.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
a 4 liter 6 cylinder car with 500hp kills a 7 LITER CARWITH 505HP(EVERYONE SAYS THE Z28 IS UNDERRATED....EVERYONE)THE Z28 REALLY HAS 545 HP FROM ALL THE FORUMS.
so the z28 has gobs more power, is a track car. gave uo 8-10 mph on the straghts to a 6 cylinder 4 liter car.
4 liters. 7 liters.
4 liters.
the mighty z28 is after all a decent fastest pony car. nothing more.
The LS7 is a better engine all around.
Better engine.
Displacement is irrelevant.
Read that as many times as it takes to sink in (could be a while...)
Now that you have had your eyes opened (hopefully) continue reading.
You could own two
two
Camaro Z28s for the price of the 1 GT3.
So you could own 2 Camaro Z28s that will both hang with a Porsche 911 GT3 around a track despite is significant weight, and power to weight disadvantage. The Z28 is nothing less than a track (a real track, with turns) monster for a bargain price.
Yes its over weight, not the fastest out there and not perfect, but no one said it was.
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Thats because you can't see clearly with those rose tinted glasses you have on all the time. Take them off and READ THIS: DISPLACEMENT IS IRRELEVANT! GM CHOSE to use the lighter, smaller, cheaper LS7 that makes more power at a lower RPM with a lower compression ratio. If the Porsche had the LS7 it would be quicker and lighter, if the flat 6 would fit in the Camaro it would be heavier and slower.
The LS7 is a better engine all around.
Better engine.
Displacement is irrelevant.
Read that as many times as it takes to sink in (could be a while...)
Now that you have had your eyes opened (hopefully) continue reading.
You could own two
two
Camaro Z28s for the price of the 1 GT3.
So you could own 2 Camaro Z28s that will both hang with a Porsche 911 GT3 around a track despite is significant weight, and power to weight disadvantage. The Z28 is nothing less than a track (a real track, with turns) monster for a bargain price.
Yes its over weight, not the fastest out there and not perfect, but no one said it was.
The LS7 is a better engine all around.
Better engine.
Displacement is irrelevant.
Read that as many times as it takes to sink in (could be a while...)
Now that you have had your eyes opened (hopefully) continue reading.
You could own two
two
Camaro Z28s for the price of the 1 GT3.
So you could own 2 Camaro Z28s that will both hang with a Porsche 911 GT3 around a track despite is significant weight, and power to weight disadvantage. The Z28 is nothing less than a track (a real track, with turns) monster for a bargain price.
Yes its over weight, not the fastest out there and not perfect, but no one said it was.
If arguing displacement, then cams, valves, fuel efficiency and all the other ricer BS must be considered as well.
On a side note, anyone looking for a Z/28 - I read that at certain dealers in the states, there are some big discounts over 20K for those sitting on the lots. 55K is a bargain for this type of car and equipment!
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Thats because you can't see clearly with those rose tinted glasses you have on all the time. Take them off and READ THIS: DISPLACEMENT IS IRRELEVANT! GM CHOSE to use the lighter, smaller, cheaper LS7 that makes more power at a lower RPM with a lower compression ratio. If the Porsche had the LS7 it would be quicker and lighter, if the flat 6 would fit in the Camaro it would be heavier and slower.
The LS7 is a better engine all around.
Better engine.
Displacement is irrelevant.
Read that as many times as it takes to sink in (could be a while...)
Now that you have had your eyes opened (hopefully) continue reading.
You could own two
two
Camaro Z28s for the price of the 1 GT3.
So you could own 2 Camaro Z28s that will both hang with a Porsche 911 GT3 around a track despite is significant weight, and power to weight disadvantage. The Z28 is nothing less than a track (a real track, with turns) monster for a bargain price.
Yes its over weight, not the fastest out there and not perfect, but no one said it was.
The LS7 is a better engine all around.
Better engine.
Displacement is irrelevant.
Read that as many times as it takes to sink in (could be a while...)
Now that you have had your eyes opened (hopefully) continue reading.
You could own two
two
Camaro Z28s for the price of the 1 GT3.
So you could own 2 Camaro Z28s that will both hang with a Porsche 911 GT3 around a track despite is significant weight, and power to weight disadvantage. The Z28 is nothing less than a track (a real track, with turns) monster for a bargain price.
Yes its over weight, not the fastest out there and not perfect, but no one said it was.
the z28 is surely one of the best cars in the world. price isnt in the discussion unless the Z gets a lap time handicap in racing.
i guess my point is, i see so many 'enthusiasts' exhaulting the Z into something it isn't. it is not a world beater, it is not a super car. to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track. (for the price lol).
its the fastest ponycar in the planet.
woo hoo. pony cars arent really a measuring stick. standards are low.
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TECH Senior Member
If the Porsche lasts that long, sure.
Specifically who says that? Can you actually name anyone, and give a direct link to the post?
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
the z28 is surely one of the best cars in the world. price isnt in the discussion unless the Z gets a lap time handicap in racing.
i guess my point is, i see so many 'enthusiasts' exhaulting the Z into something it isn't. it is not a world beater, it is not a super car. to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track. (for the price lol).
its the fastest ponycar in the planet.
woo hoo. pony cars arent really a measuring stick. standards are low.
i guess my point is, i see so many 'enthusiasts' exhaulting the Z into something it isn't. it is not a world beater, it is not a super car. to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track. (for the price lol).
its the fastest ponycar in the planet.
woo hoo. pony cars arent really a measuring stick. standards are low.
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
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Douchebag On The Tree
after 100 laps is the Z really 'hanging with it'?
the z28 is surely one of the best cars in the world. price isnt in the discussion unless the Z gets a lap time handicap in racing.
i guess my point is, i see so many 'enthusiasts' exhaulting the Z into something it isn't. it is not a world beater, it is not a super car. to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track. (for the price lol).
its the fastest ponycar in the planet.
woo hoo. pony cars arent really a measuring stick. standards are low.
the z28 is surely one of the best cars in the world. price isnt in the discussion unless the Z gets a lap time handicap in racing.
i guess my point is, i see so many 'enthusiasts' exhaulting the Z into something it isn't. it is not a world beater, it is not a super car. to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track. (for the price lol).
its the fastest ponycar in the planet.
woo hoo. pony cars arent really a measuring stick. standards are low.
I doubt any production car is up to 100 laps of hard track duty. Porsche, Camaro, or otherwise.
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TECH Enthusiast
If the Porsche lasts that long, sure.
Specifically who says that? Can you actually name anyone, and give a direct link to the post?
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
Specifically who says that? Can you actually name anyone, and give a direct link to the post?
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
pissed a near useless car is worse that another near worthless car?
lolz. enjoy your rickety falling apart pony car.
i'll enjoy my 02 deville. mines quiet. mine rides like a pillow.
my brand has own chevy. will always be better. oh you have ONE model of vette that is faster. I have luxury that **** will never have.
my brand a 2015 cts-v. you have a Camaro. awesome. im jealous of a Camaro. so jealous I never bought one. wife has had two Camaros.
and a vette. ill pass I hate the cramped crapmaro.
yeah you hit a nerve. mustang is a piece of ****, Camaro is worse.
all of you wish you could afford a caddy. everyone looks at my car. they never notice that **** you like so much.
my friends are like, wow we are taking the Cadillac. never heard anyone say hey we are taking the mustang. cuz nobody wants to ride in one.
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TECH Enthusiast
If the Porsche lasts that long, sure.
Specifically who says that? Can you actually name anyone, and give a direct link to the post?
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
Specifically who says that? Can you actually name anyone, and give a direct link to the post?
Sounds like to me you are just pissed that the Camaro trumped the mustang again, figured the Mustang fanboys would be used to that by now though...
there is one. 476 rwhp. there are a million. the z28 has 550 hp. just ask ANYONE in Camaro5.
so it lost to a 500hp 6 cylinder. weight? wtf is wrong with you. engine weight makes the 7 liter better? who ******* says that?
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Why wouldn't the Z/28 hang lap after lap. Everything about it is pretty stout. Generally the only thing that quits on track days are the brakes...something tells me the Z's brakes are up to extended track duty.
I doubt any production car is up to 100 laps of hard track duty. Porsche, Camaro, or otherwise.
I doubt any production car is up to 100 laps of hard track duty. Porsche, Camaro, or otherwise.
#14
TECH Senior Member
blah blah blah. mustang whut? who mentioned that car? you.
pissed a near useless car is worse that another near worthless car?
lolz. enjoy your rickety falling apart pony car.
i'll enjoy my 02 deville. mines quiet. mine rides like a pillow.
my brand has own chevy. will always be better. oh you have ONE model of vette that is faster. I have luxury that **** will never have.
my brand a 2015 cts-v. you have a Camaro. awesome. im jealous of a Camaro. so jealous I never bought one. wife has had two Camaros.
and a vette. ill pass I hate the cramped crapmaro.
yeah you hit a nerve. mustang is a piece of ****, Camaro is worse.
all of you wish you could afford a caddy. everyone looks at my car. they never notice that **** you like so much.
my friends are like, wow we are taking the Cadillac. never heard anyone say hey we are taking the mustang. cuz nobody wants to ride in one.
pissed a near useless car is worse that another near worthless car?
lolz. enjoy your rickety falling apart pony car.
i'll enjoy my 02 deville. mines quiet. mine rides like a pillow.
my brand has own chevy. will always be better. oh you have ONE model of vette that is faster. I have luxury that **** will never have.
my brand a 2015 cts-v. you have a Camaro. awesome. im jealous of a Camaro. so jealous I never bought one. wife has had two Camaros.
and a vette. ill pass I hate the cramped crapmaro.
yeah you hit a nerve. mustang is a piece of ****, Camaro is worse.
all of you wish you could afford a caddy. everyone looks at my car. they never notice that **** you like so much.
my friends are like, wow we are taking the Cadillac. never heard anyone say hey we are taking the mustang. cuz nobody wants to ride in one.
Bragging about a 02 deville? Cheap old grandma's car? Thats cool...
FYI the CTS-V is nothing like a traditional Cadillac, might as well be a 4 door Corvette (thats not a bad thing) - but couldn't be further from a POS like a Deville.
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...79&postcount=4
there is one. 476 rwhp. there are a million. the z28 has 550 hp. just ask ANYONE in Camaro5.
there is one. 476 rwhp. there are a million. the z28 has 550 hp. just ask ANYONE in Camaro5.
to hear most talk about the car, it has 550hp 500 lb-ft and outruns everything in the world on every track.
so it lost to a 500hp 6 cylinder.
The Porsche is a smaller, lighter car thats double the price, I sure as hell hope it could beat a lowly pony car like a Camaro around a race track.
weight? wtf is wrong with you. engine weight makes the 7 liter better? who ******* says that?
How is a lighter engine not an advantage? Would the Camaro be faster if it were heavier?
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The Z28 is an amazing car, and even more so for the price, but I doubt many people (besides maybe a few on this site) who would take it over the GT3. There is a reason it costs so much more than a Camaro.
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If I wanted an all rounder I'd take the cheapest c7 I could find, tune it and strappa blower to get it in Z06 territory, then I could have a good interior / good looking car really good handling for track days for less than a porsche, also **** porsche/bmw/mercedes electronics / consumables
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To be perfectly honest, I don't imagine anybody would buy a Z28 because that's all they can afford. It's a $75k toy.
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Registration would still be a bitch, but I can do all the maintenance myself quite easily and I know I could afford and change a clutch or rear diff or even an air filter. Z/28 probably has a better warranty too.
I don't even wanna know how much a DSG service costs. Not to mention the GT3 could have one of those engines that requires a top engine rebuild every 25k miles. Not saying it does, I'm just saying the LS7 is more than likely less "finicky".