Steve01SS

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My original 29k mile 04 OEM motor mounts are done. Motor has sagged some and the header now rubs the steering shaft while turning sometimes.

Have read all about mounts and whatnot, but have a couple questions still....

I have read both that they can or can't be done without removing the headers. Which is it?
I haven't seen anything mentioning doing the mounts with Kooks headers installed, only Pacesetters.

Are the UMI type mounts easer to install than the Revshift/Creative steel with headers in place if possible?

I'd rather not pull the headers, but will if absolutely necessary.

Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Car is a daily driver.

Thanks.

90G60

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I followed the two part YouTube video for the install (RevShift blues). Did it without removing the headers, and was surprised by how easy it was. My passenger side was completely destroyed.

Will post the link to the video once I find it again.

TeamSorad

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Same with me I watched the video and did it with the oem manifolds installed, didn't take off anything. I lowered the cross member and it wasn't to bad. Lowering the front cross member/frame what ever you call it is key

Fweasel

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OEM manifolds are not the same animal as long tube headers when it comes to room to maneuver around the motor mount area.

dead civic

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UMI here. I'll say that they are not easier to install because of the multi peaces you need to install and alight and bolt down once placed. But I feel that these are SOO work the effort.

shadyLS6

so who has ever done this with long tube headers still installed? i don't think it is possible but i would love to be wrong on this.

Steve01SS

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EXACTLY... That is my whole point.

I thought I read something the other day about a guy who did it, but had to remove the old mount from the upper mounting plate before it would come out due to the LT's in the way. It is much different than stock clearance with the LT's.

I have removed my long tubes from my C5 about 15 times due to motor/clutches/drivetrain work... I will if necessary on the V, but if it isn't necessary it is a definite plus.

BTW. Thanks for the video links, it doesn't have headers, but gives me an idea of how the mounts bolt in and come out.

MylesF7

I feel you're pain. Been there done that on my C5Z... no fun lol

MN_V

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What brand of headers did you have? I'm in the same boat as the OP.

BudRacing

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I installed headers and motor mounts at the same time. I would never attempt to install motor mounts without removing the headers first. It's not that difficult to remove them anyway.

TeamSorad

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are you guys lowering the front cross member like in the video? Even with headers vs oem manifolds I don't see how you would have to remove the header. You lower the cross member and then you can take the mount apart to drop it out. You don't "manual around them" there is space with the cross member lowered.

I would suggest watching the video and I think in my ls7 revshift thread I have more information in there

Steve01SS

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So it looks like there is no definite answer on this one. I dont have a problem removing them. Just wanted to see what others have done.

rwarden90

damn hope someone chimes in reaaly dont wanna add extra work when i do mine

shadyLS6

lollygagger may have done it with only having to remove one side. but im not 100% sure on that. maybe he will chime in or Pm him

tmonttt

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I changed both motor mounts to the Revshift Blues without removing my Pacesetter headers. It made things a bit trickier and a little more time consuming, but definitely doable. I didn't have the option of removing the headers because the idiot that owned the car before me welded the collectors to the x pipe.

I'll dig up some pictures and post them when I find them.

Also, I did have to unbolt the driver side header from the head to get a little extra room to pull the mount out.

KOOKS Headers

It can be done, but it is a tight fit with our Kooks Long Tubes.

TexVette

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Kooks are so easy to remove/install I would take the extra 15 minutes and at least loosen them up to make the motor mount install/removal so much easier. Maybe not pull them out of the car but pull the bolts and support it higher than normal with a zip tie.

MN_V

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I asked this question a year ago and FuzzyLogic said you have to remove one side and not the other, and Lolly said just the opposite (i.e. one said driver one said passenger). So maybe if we put their skills together you don't have to remove either. lol... I'll find out soon enough myself... I do have kooks

OneSlowV

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The passenger side you do not have to remove. The drivers side is a bitch i did have to remove made it alot easier.

MylesF7

Dammit. Installing my revshift mounts today and the vid was removed.