Creative Steel: CTS-V 5 Lug Swap
04-16-2014, 07:14 PM
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I have heard of guys complaining that their parking brake didn't hold the car very well, on a hill a presume. I would think it's just that the parking brake must have been out of adjustment. Not sure how you would wear down the shoes on a foot operated parking brake.
04-17-2014, 10:26 AM
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We've had a hang up because GM stopped making parts, had them on backorder(6months out), and they were expensive. We've had to replicate these parts to get the kit rolling again. It should be out within a month! I'll keep the thread updated.
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08-01-2014, 04:42 PM
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I like what Max / CS has done here.
But, I just have to point out that there are two varieties of front XLR/C6 hubs. Look close before buying, the correct one fits right into the V carrier.
FWIW I did the el cheapo swap and it has been fine for about a year now. XLR hubs. Re-drilled rear V rotor for new bolt pattern (retains P brake). Front Camaro SS rotors with opened up center hub bore. And a set of "close enough" TSW 5x120 blot pattern wheels. But I am a streeter, so I am not worried about track issues. But I do drive hard in turns.
The CS rear trailing arms and toe rods are a must for large rear wheels! 9.5" joy out back, love it.
But, I just have to point out that there are two varieties of front XLR/C6 hubs. Look close before buying, the correct one fits right into the V carrier.
FWIW I did the el cheapo swap and it has been fine for about a year now. XLR hubs. Re-drilled rear V rotor for new bolt pattern (retains P brake). Front Camaro SS rotors with opened up center hub bore. And a set of "close enough" TSW 5x120 blot pattern wheels. But I am a streeter, so I am not worried about track issues. But I do drive hard in turns.
The CS rear trailing arms and toe rods are a must for large rear wheels! 9.5" joy out back, love it.
08-01-2014, 07:05 PM
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FWIW I did the el cheapo swap and it has been fine for about a year now. XLR hubs. Re-drilled rear V rotor for new bolt pattern (retains P brake). Front Camaro SS rotors with opened up center hub bore. And a set of "close enough" TSW 5x120 blot pattern wheels. But I am a streeter, so I am not worried about track issues. But I do drive hard in turns.
08-01-2014, 07:25 PM
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Which all can be solved when swapping out axles, like saaaay when you get an 8.8 rear end. Take half the car apart, might as well do it up right with the front half
For example, say when you order something from GForce for a GTO, I would imagine if you could just get their CVs for the rear, you would be ok or maybe you'd have to get the whole axle. But either way, it can be done. They are 5 lug and I think 5x120 as well. And as I recall their frames are even somewhat similar to ours in width? Could be wrong there... But that's the route I was hoping for before this thread started
For example, say when you order something from GForce for a GTO, I would imagine if you could just get their CVs for the rear, you would be ok or maybe you'd have to get the whole axle. But either way, it can be done. They are 5 lug and I think 5x120 as well. And as I recall their frames are even somewhat similar to ours in width? Could be wrong there... But that's the route I was hoping for before this thread started
06-03-2015, 10:40 AM
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06-03-2015, 10:55 AM
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why did you guys make custom backing plates for the ebrake assembly when the stock stuff from the V2/camaro is already a bolt in part so long as you're using the V2/camaro rotors?
and it's actually 5x120 versus 5x120.65 (4.75)? why? 5x120/5x120.65 are already interchangeable bolt patterns. wheel tolerances aren't tight enough for it to matter with conical seat lug nuts and hub rings.
and it's actually 5x120 versus 5x120.65 (4.75)? why? 5x120/5x120.65 are already interchangeable bolt patterns. wheel tolerances aren't tight enough for it to matter with conical seat lug nuts and hub rings.
06-03-2015, 12:56 PM
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why did you guys make custom backing plates for the ebrake assembly when the stock stuff from the V2/camaro is already a bolt in part so long as you're using the V2/camaro rotors?
and it's actually 5x120 versus 5x120.65 (4.75)? why? 5x120/5x120.65 are already interchangeable bolt patterns. wheel tolerances aren't tight enough for it to matter with conical seat lug nuts and hub rings.
and it's actually 5x120 versus 5x120.65 (4.75)? why? 5x120/5x120.65 are already interchangeable bolt patterns. wheel tolerances aren't tight enough for it to matter with conical seat lug nuts and hub rings.
We had found that a lot of the e-brake assembly was on backorder from gm. We waited over two months for some parts that eventually was cancelled. And paying over $80 per backing plate (and still needing other parts) didn't seem very cost effective for the customer when we could make it cheaper and faster.
As a company we decided to do the 120mm over 4.75" because it was the proper way to do it. Yes, if you are doing the swap on your own vehicle and want to risk it, fine. But we don't need a lawsuit if wheel studs break as a guy is doing 75mph+ on the interstate. I have seen a lot of people not even use hub centric rings; you add that to an incorrect bolt pattern and problems can occur that I don't need a phone call for.
06-03-2015, 01:51 PM
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I am glad you asked this, as we have had to state it a few times to people over the phone.
We had found that a lot of the e-brake assembly was on backorder from gm. We waited over two months for some parts that eventually was cancelled. And paying over $80 per backing plate (and still needing other parts) didn't seem very cost effective for the customer when we could make it cheaper and faster.
As a company we decided to do the 120mm over 4.75" because it was the proper way to do it. Yes, if you are doing the swap on your own vehicle and want to risk it, fine. But we don't need a lawsuit if wheel studs break as a guy is doing 75mph+ on the interstate. I have seen a lot of people not even use hub centric rings; you add that to an incorrect bolt pattern and problems can occur that I don't need a phone call for.
We had found that a lot of the e-brake assembly was on backorder from gm. We waited over two months for some parts that eventually was cancelled. And paying over $80 per backing plate (and still needing other parts) didn't seem very cost effective for the customer when we could make it cheaper and faster.
As a company we decided to do the 120mm over 4.75" because it was the proper way to do it. Yes, if you are doing the swap on your own vehicle and want to risk it, fine. But we don't need a lawsuit if wheel studs break as a guy is doing 75mph+ on the interstate. I have seen a lot of people not even use hub centric rings; you add that to an incorrect bolt pattern and problems can occur that I don't need a phone call for.
06-03-2015, 02:07 PM
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I am glad you asked this, as we have had to state it a few times to people over the phone.
We had found that a lot of the e-brake assembly was on backorder from gm. We waited over two months for some parts that eventually was cancelled. And paying over $80 per backing plate (and still needing other parts) didn't seem very cost effective for the customer when we could make it cheaper and faster.
We had found that a lot of the e-brake assembly was on backorder from gm. We waited over two months for some parts that eventually was cancelled. And paying over $80 per backing plate (and still needing other parts) didn't seem very cost effective for the customer when we could make it cheaper and faster.
As a company we decided to do the 120mm over 4.75" because it was the proper way to do it. Yes, if you are doing the swap on your own vehicle and want to risk it, fine. But we don't need a lawsuit if wheel studs break as a guy is doing 75mph+ on the interstate. I have seen a lot of people not even use hub centric rings; you add that to an incorrect bolt pattern and problems can occur that I don't need a phone call for.
i'm currently running a set of 5x120 wheels with some, rather tight fitting, hub rings and am totally comfortable with it. i understand the liability point you have to be worried about, though.
