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Old 05-01-2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Incredible, I love seeing machining stuff like this, it's amazing what you can do with the willingness to attack the hurdles. How does the firing order get changed with the crank design now? IIRC an inline 6 or V12 is very well balanced harmonically due to evenly spaced firing pulses, are you getting the same effect using this arrangement as opposed to an engine designed from the outset to be a 12 cyl?
153624 is the order.

Most of the cylinders are on 45 degree centers, with four cylinders on 90 degree centers. The crank has the inverse firing order on each side, front to back/back to front.

We are utilizing a 90 degree block instead of a 60 degree block. This is the only other practical solution other than an even fire crank. It should be a wicked sounding V12 that's really a cross between a v16 and a v8
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Do you have a video of what it sounds like?
This would be so great for the kit car/replica folks!
No video of the sound, still building it! I'll be sure to post one when we get it running
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How much power did the LS12 in the suburban make?
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How much power did the LS12 in the suburban make?
It was held back by the stock throttle body and completely stock parts. I actually don't know for sure because I never saw the dyno, but I was told it was around 525
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Definitely cool. I had no idea you could reliably weld a block and heads together. Maybe this will spark some interest in a true cast V12 engine. I would love to see a 10.5L (427 X 1.5) with LS7 style heads and huge twin turbos!
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Amazing
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Originally Posted by V12Baker
It should be a wicked sounding V12 that's really a cross between a v16 and a v8
Yep, the sound alone is going to put a woody on a jellyfish
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Originally Posted by sierrac3_s2000
Definitely cool. I had no idea you could reliably weld a block and heads together. Maybe this will spark some interest in a true cast V12 engine. I would love to see a 10.5L (427 X 1.5) with LS7 style heads and huge twin turbos!
o yea people have been welding blocks heads, cast iron for years, furnace welding etc. But it is a lost art very few people are around that know how its done an done right
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Wow, this is nuts. Awesome work!
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Originally Posted by V12Baker
We've built several LS12s so far. One went into a suburban, and another went into 3/4 scale P-51.
Do you have any photos of those? Would love to see the finished engine installed.
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holy amazing! cant wait to see/hear this thing fire up
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how do you weld all the water jackets up?????? on the block and the heads!! I call bullshit!!
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Awesome. The same kind of stuff Ryan Falconer was doing to 400"SBC back in the 1990s. I think he has his own block and 32 valve heads castings now I think.
This plus a pair of turbos in a 1500 4X4 truck please!!!
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Originally Posted by scsuperstang
how do you weld all the water jackets up?????? on the block and the heads!! I call bullshit!!
Google Falconer V12. It has been done before.
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holy **** this is real?
how did you extend the plastic intake?
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Can you post some info on that 4 cylinder LS you guys were working on? I spoke with the guy who was having you make it within the last year or two.
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oah mi god....

Please go buy a Diablo with a bad engine and swap it. Pleaaase


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