slayer_taunu

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i've finally got to go to a real track after installing my torque arm, and i'm getting bad wheel hop off the line, as well as the 1-2 shift. i didn't have any issues with wheel hop before the torque arm, i only used to spin like a ****.

i would think that with all the suspension/chassis mods that i have (all in my sig), this would not be an issue. as this car is a street car, the pinion angle is set to -1 degrees.

stock LS6 clutch, rear end and BFG KDW tires, inflated to street pressure (36psi). front swaybar is still connected. i launch around 1300 rpms and slip out the clutch as i gas it... only pulling a 2.2 60'.

GIZMO

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Put an air bag in the passenger side rear spring. Try 15-20 psi.

Daren

RaNsOm

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whats your TA pinion angle? dont go any farther than -2*. Also maybe try some LCA relocation brackets? they fixed my problem instantly

slayer_taunu

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pinion angle is -1. i was told any more than that on a street car, and i'd have serious issues with the seal where the DS meets the rear

slayer_taunu

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ok, this sounds like a newbie question, but what exactly is one of these 'airbags' and where do i get one.

bigdsz

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Relocation brackets immediately solved my severe wheel hop. Launching at 3,500-4,000 rpm I thought the car was going to shake apart. I welded in the RB's and zero hop.

GIZMO

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An air bag is like a balloon that goes inside the coil spring. The inflated pressure will limit the rate at which the spring compresses. They are available from both Jegs and Summit.
Relocation brackets are recommened for lowerred cars to correct lower control arm angle.

Daren

JL ws-6

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the relo. brackets will probably fix the problem, you most likly won't need the lca'sin the lower hole, just one down from stock. I had them put on when I did my 12 bolt, and the lca's were put in teh center hole. I tried moving them up to the stock hole, and got alot of hop on the street, I then tried them in the lowest hole, didn't really seem any different then in the middle, so back the the middle hole they went.

slayer_taunu

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now here's the kicker... it didn't do it when i first put the torque arm on, it has just done it recently, after i moved. i've checked to make sure the rear suspension bolts are tight, so is it possible that my suspension setup was good for my old track (New england dragway), and my setup just doesnt like the tracks that i've been going to?

slolt1

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relocatoin brackets and umi sells a nice set if you have a 9 inch rear

NXZ

The wheel hoop that I received was due to a loose rear control arm. On my Mosier 12 bolt, a stock control arm bushing and the mounting bracket on the rear are not the same size. I had to over tighten the control arm bolt and this brought the bracket in until it was seated correctly. Just a little fix that I found.

chpmnsws6

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He might be able to luanch straight then but every other gear will still be slightly off, and if he had to hit the brakes for some reason (other car getting squirly) it is going to put him into the wall much easier.

Airbags are a redneck bandaid

LS1Queen

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Maybe I'm wrong but i always thought a stick car needed more pinion angle than an auto -1 will hit the tires preety hard I would move the pinion angle to -3 and put some good shocks on it, I have and auto with -3 pinion angle and i can put the car on the bumper anytime i feel like it with drag radials.

Noyzee

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matt, check all your bolts, make sure the top ones on the tq arm are good!! be sure none backed off. when i did the install i used loc tight so it should be fine.
other then that, it is the track. ned you would spin because its a **** track!! your local track now must be pretty good!
the relocation brackets should fix it. dont change pinion angle! i run mine at -1, and if i just cant hook i bump it to -2, but -1 on your car is good!

bmr makes a set, they should be welded on. they are simple todo tho, any speed shop around you should be able to help

AFTICA

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The relocation brackets cured ALL my wheel hop issues. I'm at stock ride height and used the lowest hole on the BMR bolt-in brackets.

GIZMO

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Well, you obviously don't know a whole lot about this subject.

Noyzee

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i do have to agree a little with him. with the right suspention setup you car should go straight without an air bag. air bag is a cheep fix for a real issue.
it wont fix wheelhop tho

chpmnsws6

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Let me guess, your also the person who runs a 350 pound spring infront and a 150 pounder in the rear. you also think you need more weight on the drivers side since it lifts up more then the passenger side


preloading the spring is dangerous

Noyzee

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sway bars, sway bars. no air bags!!

GIZMO

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No. I am the guy that built the current IHRA B/FIA National Record Holder.

http://prophotoproductions.exposurem...iv9/_g2l004942

This car does the sixty in 1.35. It is extremely stable at any speed. The air bag is a pretty good tuning tool when you are not allowed an aftermarket weld in sway bar. I also use different spring rates.


Daren