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Old 09-09-2016, 11:19 PM
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I have a 1973 Corvette I just swapped an lsx into. Long story short, it made 350/312 at the wheels, yet all the power seems too far in the power band so it's a dog off the line... please let me know what I can do within reason to help...cant even burnout.. Here are the specs.

Stock bottom 5.3
243 heads milled .017 to keep compression (in theory) at 9.5:1
Texas speed 228r cam
Ls6 intake
Beehive springs
1 3/4 long tube headers
2.5" full exhaust
Th400
3.08s in the back.
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It will spin the tires if I neutral drop, just no power off the line.

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Anytime you run over a 220 duration cam in a 5.3 you go start to lose power down low and pull hard up top. You never mentioned what stall you running.... I would go 3500 minuim and more rear gear ratio will help you pull out the hole as well.
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Running a 2300-2600 stall, but think it's stalling lower than that...no tach to check yet

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Ditch the 3.08 gears and that stall.
I would try a 3.42 gear with a 3500 stall... I think you will be happy.
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the lack of overdrive suggests this is a race-car only (trailer car) so I feel that 3.73 or 4.11 are more appropriate gear ratios.

If you keep the 3.08 I would drop the cam (use a 218/224 ish) and add a turbocharger (bring power to around 450rwhp) but its still lacking overdrive so not a street car, no economy.

The reason it feels slow is the gearing and lack of boost, combined with the slush of a 3-speed no lockup against a converter and a bunch of weight. Alternatively you could shave 1000lbs off but that is probably harder than adding a turbo.
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
the lack of overdrive suggests this is a race-car only (trailer car) so I feel that 3.73 or 4.11 are more appropriate gear ratios.......
Agreed!

More gear.......and more compression; as much more as you can get given your current parts.

9.5:1 SCR with a 228 cam is not 'optimal' .

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Agreed!

More gear.......and more compression; as much more as you can get given your current parts.

9.5:1 SCR with a 228 cam is not 'optimal' .

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I am thinking turbo. A 218/224 with a pair of 50 trims would net 550rwhp~ and full boost before 3400rpm, enough to set the converter and tires on fire with any gear.
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
I am thinking turbo. A 218/224 with a pair of 50 trims would net 550rwhp~ and full boost before 3400rpm, enough to set the converter and tires on fire with any gear.
Yep run down to the dollar store and pick up a twin turbo kit and have the turbo fairy install it while he sleeps and he's all set lol

I guess you missed this part in his first post "please let me know what I can do within reason to help"


As others have already pointed out and as you felt in the seat of the pants, Your cam isn't making power down low so to compensate you need to get the motor up in the powerband sooner, More stall will fix that and gears will help keep the momentum going.
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
the lack of overdrive suggests this is a race-car only (trailer car) so I feel that 3.73 or 4.11 are more appropriate gear ratios.

If you keep the 3.08 I would drop the cam (use a 218/224 ish) and add a turbocharger (bring power to around 450rwhp) but its still lacking overdrive so not a street car, no economy.

The reason it feels slow is the gearing and lack of boost, combined with the slush of a 3-speed no lockup against a converter and a bunch of weight. Alternatively you could shave 1000lbs off but that is probably harder than adding a turbo.
Just because it a 3 spd it's not a street car? lol.

Your logic is backwards and makes no sense. Your theory of making down low off idle power is adding turbos that run off exhaust gas which is greater at higher rpm instead of adding a mechanically advantage that gives him more off idle

Just add a set of gears first off and see how you like it then look into a better stall.
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Originally Posted by SCott5
Your logic is backwards and makes no sense.
Exactly

But like mentioned above, start with the logical items first. More gear, more stall.
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Scott5, you're correct. She is my weekend/nice day car. The TH400 is what came in the car, and I have been looking into a 4l80e swap to see if it'll fit.

I just swapped to the lsx from a small block that was making roughly the same power. Roller cam, s/r torquer heads, rpm air gap etc. Not really any faster (I dont think), but now get 15mpg or so vs 8.

Would you guys suggest milling the heads any more, to being up compression? That's only a couple hundred bucks and some time.

I will also look into some 3.73s, but then an overdrive gear or two would be nice and help with a little economy when I'm not deep in the pedal.
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Ur converter is way way to small, 3600 would be perfect for your setup.
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Originally Posted by LLLosingit
Yep run down to the dollar store and pick up a twin turbo kit and have the turbo fairy install it while he sleeps and he's all set lol
Please let me know the closest turbo kit dollar store to Kansas City! My friend is wrapping his tt setup on a 6.0, but he has spent waaay more $ than I have, and he is a full on 'street car' with a parachute and 4 digit HP.
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Originally Posted by dirkdiggler350
Ur converter is way way to small, 3600 would be perfect for your setup.
Thanks.
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I'm kinda surprised it won't do a burnout. What's your weight and what rear tires do you run?
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Weight is around 3400 lbs. Rear tires are nankang 255/45/17
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Back when I just had a 5.3 with a 01 ls6 cam 320whp and stock stall I would start brake stalling and at 1200 rpm my tires would break loose. 3850 lbs then with 275/40/17 nt555. I did have 4.10's. You should try racing, traction is a good thing
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Stock stall with my old engine would do the same thing. Roast all day.


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