gomer

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This isn't my car, but a setup I did for a local guy here. It's in a 2001 WS6. It is a forged 348 with Mahle pistons, Eagle rods, stock crank, PRC 5.3's unmilled, .052 compressed Victor gaskets, TSP MS3 cam, stock rockers, ASP pulley, FAST 90mm intake, FAST 90mm TB, stock 01 injectors, stock MAF, stock fuel pump, TSP lid, hooker long tubes with 2.5 inch x pipe and duals dumped at the rear. The engine is still new and today was the first time it had been "beat on".

The drivetrain is exactly the same as in my car. Moser 12 bolt with 4.10's, Eaton HD posi, 33 spline axles, spec stage III clutch, AP Engineering 3 inch chromoly DS, 17x11 chrome ZR1 wheels with Nitto's.

The car put down 452rwhp and 407rwtq today. I was expecting between 450 and 460 out of the combo. The runs were thru the dual exhaust, with all the belts on, and with a stock WP. I'm on my laptop until Monday, and the runviewer software is giving me fits, so I'll post the graph up as soon as I get it to save as a .jpg

What does everybody think about the results? I told the guy that owns the car a forged motor generally makes less rwhp than a stock shortblock car. I thought these were pretty good results for unmilled heads and such.

pdd

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thats killer nice job

jrp

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sweet, a non afr 450rwhp combo , through a dyno sucking drivetrain too. whats the CR?. engine still needs to be broken in as well. a dyno @ 3k should yeild better results. also how'd the tune look?

i'll be awaiting the graph. i'd wish for more tq myself but with the 12 bolt and 4.10's there should be no problem.

gomer

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Here's the best I can do for a graph at the moment. I'll have a better one up Monday when I get back in the office and have a real PC, I don't know why my broke dick windows 98 doesn't work right with winpep 7 dyno software. For some odd reason it won't let me display RPM and it has those big spikes in the torque. I tuned it for as close to 13:1 all the way across the board as I could get it. The timing was the same as I run in my car (around 29*). The cam peaked right around 6450rpm or so. The compression should be around 10.9 or 11:1 Max. with polished 5.3 chambers and the valve reliefs in the Mahle pistions. I'm real impressed with the MS3 cam. I'm doing the same cam in my car with a set of "race series" PRC heads, and a FAST 90mm setup. My heads are still about 3 or 4 weeks out, so we'll have to wait a little longer for those results.


EDIT: I've posted a better graph now.

TVWilkes

Nice numbers!PRC heads & MS3 cam is a very stout combo.

slow ride

Hey Terry what is the intake vol in cc's. Of your 5.3 stage II heads?

eb02z06

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Hey bro-nice results! What's the driveabilty of the cam? I'm just about to throw this thing in my car but I'm going to put it in 2 degrees advanced. My botton ends stock issue LS6 and i don't want to buzz it past 6900 rpm.

gomer

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It drives pretty good. I haven't driven the car very much, but it drives as good as my F15 does and idles better (smoother) than the F15 does. It peaked early enough so that you wouldn't have to spin it to 6900. I'm going to install mine on the 113icl when I stick it in my stock shortblock.

gomer

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Ok guys, I've added a good screenshot of the graph now!

MARKSZ71

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very nice i would love to have those numbers out of my car,that car should fly if it hooks

jrp

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curves look great, especially the tq. whats the rev limiter set at?

gomer

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I have the limiter set at 6900 on the car right now, I think it would be safe at 7200 if he needs it later. I'm installing a TNT F2 kit and a good fuel pump in the next few weeks. I'll post the results on the 200 shot after we get that together. With the 4.10's and a 26inch tire 6900 is good for 133mph, so on the spray he could turn it up to 7200 to get 139mph. This guy mostly runs 1/8th mile tracks and he doesn't want to run a 28inch tire.

jrp

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whats the ICL on the MS3; 110? seems like it starts to fall off after 6500, im curious what a pull to or past 7k would look like.

gomer

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113lsa and 113icl. I'm going to do an overlay of this setup and my F15 setup and compare what's going on at 6500. He's going to add an electric WP and some header extensions (to run open headers) so I'll be able to dyno the car again in the next week or so, when I do.. I'll spin that bitch to 7,100 or so and give us a good indication of what's happening up there

jrp

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is that what you installed it at or does the cam not have any advance ground in it?

the MS3 and my FTI cam have similar VE's @ .050 and mines 112+0..

gomer

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It comes without any advance ground into it. So I installed it "as ground" on a 113icl.

jrp

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i did not know that, learn something new everday. tq curve really looks great considering the size of the cam and no advance ground in.

eb02z06

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Yeah the cam has no advance ground into it, it's ground on a 113. I talked to Trevor about it-he said at 113 it gave the best p/v clearance and it really helped smooth out the idle. I was going to install mine 2 degrees advanced but know i may just stick it in straight up. Trevor said there was no HP difference in advancing the cam-my only concern was if my LS6 rods could handle 6800 rpm shifts. Gomer I bet the the compression is only around 10.7, usualy CNC'd 5.3 heads end up around 63. If thoise heads were milled down to say 59cc i bet it would pick up both curves nicely. All the same-excellent results. I can't wait to get to get my FFHP MS3 combo together.

gomer

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The ones I'm having done up for my car will be milled .045 That should help out a little

John B

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Awesome numbers! I'll bet that a few more ponies could be had with a 3" exhaust over the 2-1/2" set-up!