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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 09:22 PM
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Default Ls2 to t56 trans help

I have an 04 gto, putting a 6.0 in it and the trans about 1/2 from siding on. So I took the engine out after battling it and took the bell housing off and mocked it up. The. I re aligned the clutch still can’t get it on all the way. Doing some measuring and the input shaft that goes into the pilot is 1 inch, so I’m sure I’m in there. If I try to use bolts to drive it in seem like it’s too tight to drive it in.

please this car has been sitting for almost two years now cause I can’t get this and other life obligations.

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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 09:38 PM
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Is the throwout bearing empty of fluid? If not it could be your problem. Try cracking the bleeder open when you install it and see if that helps.
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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
Is the throwout bearing empty of fluid? If not it could be your problem. Try cracking the bleeder open when you install it and see if that helps.
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Old Sep 22, 2024 | 03:21 AM
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Don't discount the possibility that it has the wrong pilot bearing, or the bearing is installed backwards.
edit-- Nevermind, I just saw his other thread.
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Don't discount the possibility that it has the wrong pilot bearing, or the bearing is installed backwards.
edit-- Nevermind, I just saw his other thread.
Yup, I asked that and he answered it here over a year and a half later.
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Old Sep 22, 2024 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chonda
Doing some measuring and the input shaft that goes into the pilot is 1 inch, so I’m sure I’m in there. If I try to use bolts to drive it in seem like it’s too tight to drive it in.

please this car has been sitting for almost two years now cause I can’t get this and other life obligations.

thanks
So whatever one of these two threads of the same thing you'll pay attention to that you posted I guess let us know.

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Ok took the clutch off confirmed the input shaft fits all the way in the back of the crank and bearing. Realign the clutch tool goes in and out easier. Put the bell housing on the trans then to the engine.
Bolt the Bell Housing to the Engine first, then stab the T56 into that.

Originally Posted by Chonda
I get it to 1/16 or less. But the gap on the bottom is bigger. Tighten up the top bolts and I still have neutral. The bottom bolts are too far out to “suck in” but if I tighten them up I lose neutrals losen them up and neutral is back (able to spin output shaft).
The Input Shaft is binding and pushing on the Bearings inside causing nothing to move.
As I mentioned in your other thread I put a Yoke in the back of the T56 and have it in 4th to be able to turn the Input Shaft of the T56 in the Clutch Splines so it goes in. Grease on the Splines helps too.

If you don't want to read what we post here trying to help you out let us know know so we stop wasting our time with someone who can't listen to people who do this **** without problems.

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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
Is the throwout bearing empty of fluid? If not it could be your problem. Try cracking the bleeder open when you install it and see if that helps.
I've never had that problem with any T56 I've slammed in a car and it's several dozen at this point. This is someone who doesn't want to listen to advice or I'm just the master at stabbing the Input Shaft in a hole.
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Old Sep 23, 2024 | 12:30 PM
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I've installed a few myself and have not ran into an issue with the TOB interfering with transmission install. I've always bled them after installation and maybe that was why I haven't ran into problems. Perhaps the OP just didn't measure everything before trying to stab the transmission and something isn't right.

It's anyone's guess at this point as all I see that we're getting here is crickets
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Input shaft hanging on the splines or its binding in the Pilot Bearing. Little grease in there like normal before installing the T56. Them plastic alignment tools aren't the greatest why I use a damaged input shaft. Find center, tighten up the Pressure Plate and stab it in.
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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 07:29 PM
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Figured it out. I have a 6.0 extended crank. I called McLeod and they told me to do some
measurements and boom I’m to shallow from pressure plate to bell housing.

anyone know of a shallower throw out bearing from the stock gto one?

or anyone have a drawing for a t56 mid plate so I can make one easily
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Looking at the pics you posted I find that hard to believe. You have that out of the car take a pic of the gap of the Flywheel from the Block, if you had that extended Crank you'll be able to shine a light in the gap and see it.

They are saying that extended Crank is in that LS2 aluminum Block? Bullshit. That's 99-00 LQ4 stuff.

What is up with that whole ring on the back of the Engine? Some kind of spacer?

I'm leaning toward you have the wrong combo of parts here and trying to piece it together that way but we apparently don't know anything here since you posted a question, got answers, and believe the first answer some desk jockey gave you over the phone. You do you tho.

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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chonda
Figured it out. I have a 6.0 extended crank. I called McLeod and they told me to do some
measurements and boom I’m to shallow from pressure plate to bell housing.

anyone know of a shallower throw out bearing from the stock gto one?

or anyone have a drawing for a t56 mid plate so I can make one easily
well, you don't have room between the ring gear and the block plate to support you have a long crank w/ regular flywheel. Also, the ring gear sits by the starter in a way that doesn't make me think you do, either.

If you had McLeod's LS flywheel for long crank applications, you wouldn't have a pressure plate / slave cylinder / transmission depth issue.

So post some more pics. Preferably of the crank from the side without the flywheel attached. And of the starter to ring gear area.

Because although there's an OEM way to do what you want to do, I suspect it does not apply to the parts you have.
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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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well, you don't have room between the ring gear and the block plate to support you have a long crank w/ regular flywheel. Also, the ring gear sits by the starter in a way that doesn't make me think you do, either.

If you had McLeod's LS flywheel for long crank applications, you wouldn't have a pressure plate / slave cylinder / transmission depth issue.

So post some more pics. Preferably of the crank from the side without the flywheel attached. And of the starter to ring gear area.

Because although there's an OEM way to do what you want to do, I suspect it does not apply to the parts you have.
Called Texas speed, (it’s thier stroker kit one using) confirmed not extended, then called Holley, sent them some pics I might have to get an ls2 bellhousing per them.
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Originally Posted by Chonda
Motor side of bellhousing is not flat. Could that be it?
You said this in your other thread.

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Called Texas speed, (it’s thier stroker kit one using) confirmed not extended, then called Holley, sent them some pics I might have to get an ls2 bellhousing per them.
LS1 and LS2 GTO had the same bellhousing.

The GTO starter and GTO bellhousing are a matched pair. They must be used together. The bell is not to be used with any other starter.

You have some more work to do. You seem to like calling big companies and believing what they tell you. It seems you have run into hogwash already.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
They are saying that extended Crank is in that LS2 aluminum Block? Bullshit. That's 99-00 LQ4 stuff.
Originally Posted by Chonda
Called Texas speed, (it’s thier stroker kit one using) confirmed not extended,
Funny how that **** works eh bud, some of us know what we are talking about but you don't want to answer me back for some reason..

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What is up with that whole ring on the back of the Engine? Some kind of spacer?

I'm leaning toward you have the wrong combo of parts here and trying to piece it together that way but we apparently don't know anything here..
This, again. OP is a waste of bandwidth.
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