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Old May 27, 2026 | 04:05 PM
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I usually try to run Morel 5315s in my motors but I haven't had to buy since before Covid. Looks like it’s a crap shoot or $500+ for lifters. I heard that Morel 7717s are not made by Morel and (eaton now) and have a smaller .700 wheel which is the easy way to tell. I picked up a 6.0, Summit stage 2 cam, Summit LS6 valve springs street motor only spinning to 6-6500. I was looking at Delphi, Summit HT217-16 which have the same .700 wheel aka rebranded Morels. Without spending a fortune on Johnsons or the GM Caddy lifters what say you? I would like this to work with stock length 7.4 pushrods too...

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Gaterman lifters also seem to be out of stock. I'd call Summit or BTR.
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Here is a break down of each lifter...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...erience-3.html
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I build a fair amount of engines. My go-to LS lifter for a drop-in is the BTR Delphi lifter that’s like $210ish. I use those and genuine GM trays and have had zero issues ever. It’s a quality piece. Speaking from lots of experience. If I’m doing a LS performance build, I’ll go with the Johnson 2116 or the 2126 link bar lifters, depending on usage and camshaft choice.
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I build a fair amount of engines. My go-to LS lifter for a drop-in is the BTR Delphi lifter that’s like $210ish. I use those and genuine GM trays and have had zero issues ever. It’s a quality piece. Speaking from lots of experience. If I’m doing a LS performance build, I’ll go with the Johnson 2116 or the 2126 link bar lifters, depending on usage and camshaft choice.
I heard BTR got bought out, Brian is still president for a bit after the buy out. Cam motion sells the Delphi lifters for like $160, I just haven’t pulled the trigger on anything yet.
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
Here is a break down of each lifter...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...erience-3.html
idk if that tells me anything. Obviously don’t buy the Amazon specials lol.
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
idk if that tells me anything. Obviously don’t buy the Amazon specials lol.
No discernable difference between the more expensive Cadillac version. They are very similar to the Standard LS7 offering from GM.
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
I heard BTR got bought out, Brian is still president for a bit after the buy out. Cam motion sells the Delphi lifters for like $160, I just haven’t pulled the trigger on anything yet.
Brian did sell a few months ago. Several businesses sell a lifter with a gold colored retainer clip, and refer to it as a Delphi style lifter. I go with what I know works because my reputation is all I have. The BTR Delphi sets have proven themselves in my mild builds. It might very well be the same lifter that CM sells for $60 less…idk. I can’t afford to find out the hard way.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Brian did sell a few months ago. Several businesses sell a lifter with a gold colored retainer clip, and refer to it as a Delphi style lifter. I go with what I know works because my reputation is all I have. The BTR Delphi sets have proven themselves in my mild builds. It might very well be the same lifter that CM sells for $60 less…idk. I can’t afford to find out the hard way.
I will second that. I have put 2 sets in at customer request and they work. The last set had a sticky roller even after cleaning them, but it freed up once it was in soaked in oil.

The guy beats the snot out of that particular motor on a daily basis.
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I’ve talked about it on Tech a few times in the past, and it’s worth mentioning here…washing new lifters in a clean tank is a must to get the cosmoline type crap out of them that they are assembled with. Lifter manufacturers do this because they might be shipping 10k units to Saudi Arabia and they might spend a month at sea in a container that’s in 100% humidity with extreme heat. It’s a perfect playground for condensation and henceforth rust. The coating fights the rust. You HAVE to get it both off the body and out of the internals. Wash the lifters. Then wash the lifters. Soaking them in oil is a great idea because it oils the roller bearings that are about to see rpm very quickly…you don’t want them dry at start up. I have a dedicated parts washer with mineral spirits that only sees new parts, just for this purpose. You guys wouldn’t believe how often I have to drain the parts washer to clean the dirt off the bottom….from BRAND NEW PARTS. Wash your parts folks if you want them to last. Even when new, parts are dirty.
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I’ve talked about it on Tech a few times in the past, and it’s worth mentioning here…washing new lifters in a clean tank is a must to get the cosmoline type crap out of them that they are assembled with. Lifter manufacturers do this because they might be shipping 10k units to Saudi Arabia and they might spend a month at sea in a container that’s in 100% humidity with extreme heat. It’s a perfect playground for condensation and henceforth rust. The coating fights the rust. You HAVE to get it both off the body and out of the internals. Wash the lifters. Then wash the lifters. Soaking them in oil is a great idea because it oils the roller bearings that are about to see rpm very quickly…you don’t want them dry at start up. I have a dedicated parts washer with mineral spirits that only sees new parts, just for this purpose. You guys wouldn’t believe how often I have to drain the parts washer to clean the dirt off the bottom….from BRAND NEW PARTS. Wash your parts folks if you want them to last. Even when new, parts are dirty.
I have a clean Horrible Freight 20 gallon wash tank (the older light blue one) and I use PSC1000 from Tractor supply in it. It's a clean parts only wash tank. The light color also allows me to see if any debris has collected at the bottom. As you mentioned, The average person might be surprised at the amount of stuff that comes off "new" parts.
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Old May 29, 2026 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Brian did sell a few months ago. Several businesses sell a lifter with a gold colored retainer clip, and refer to it as a Delphi style lifter. I go with what I know works because my reputation is all I have. The BTR Delphi sets have proven themselves in my mild builds. It might very well be the same lifter that CM sells for $60 less…idk. I can’t afford to find out the hard way.
Yea, I get it. You would think BTR and CM are both cam companies... selling lifters with the cams they should be the same part lol. I'm honestly getting them bc I "might" need them down the road. I wasn't pulling the heads on this 6.0, as I didn't want to let the magic out. Just cam, timing set, 295HV pump, pan, pushrods, LS6 springs. I have a set of CHE swapped stock rockers I might put in. I think I remember seeing some wear on the pushrods when I pulled it out of the 6.0 so thats why I went with some summit .109" wall pushrods. I generally buy parts when I can and have extra funds as they always increase in price over time and I will end up using it at some point. Got a decent leakdown tester too so I will check this 6.0 before I do springs... If I have high leakdown I'll prob end up pulling the heads to lap the valves.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
I’ve talked about it on Tech a few times in the past, and it’s worth mentioning here…washing new lifters in a clean tank is a must to get the cosmoline type crap out of them that they are assembled with. Lifter manufacturers do this because they might be shipping 10k units to Saudi Arabia and they might spend a month at sea in a container that’s in 100% humidity with extreme heat. It’s a perfect playground for condensation and henceforth rust. The coating fights the rust. You HAVE to get it both off the body and out of the internals. Wash the lifters. Then wash the lifters. Soaking them in oil is a great idea because it oils the roller bearings that are about to see rpm very quickly…you don’t want them dry at start up. I have a dedicated parts washer with mineral spirits that only sees new parts, just for this purpose. You guys wouldn’t believe how often I have to drain the parts washer to clean the dirt off the bottom….from BRAND NEW PARTS. Wash your parts folks if you want them to last. Even when new, parts are dirty.
Thats a good Idea, what If I don't have a parts washer? Can I just stick them in a container with mineral spirits and soak them? I would like to also do this so the stock rockers... is mineral spirits better for the rockers or should I use like a purple power/LA awsome?
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Thats a good Idea, what If I don't have a parts washer? Can I just stick them in a container with mineral spirits and soak them? I would like to also do this so the stock rockers... is mineral spirits better for the rockers or should I use like a purple power/LA awsome?
DO NOT use an alkaline, water based cleaner like Purple Power.

Mineral spirits/ paint thinner will be fine. Yes, you can do it in a small tub.

For what it's worth, I've never washed new lifters before installation; I would just give them a wipe down with a clean cloth, and add the appropriate assembly lube. I've had good luck with lifters over the years, even when it seems like everyone is having problems.
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I've had older link bar BBC lifters that sat on the shelf so long that the cosmolene hardened to the point where the wheels would barely turn and the plunger wouldn't move. Soaked in mineral spirits for several days with little change so I used mineral spirits in an ultrasonic cleaner, worked like a champ. I soaked the wheels in a good break-in oil per instructions from the manufacturer when I called to ask.
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Thats a good Idea, what If I don't have a parts washer? Can I just stick them in a container with mineral spirits and soak them? I would like to also do this so the stock rockers... is mineral spirits better for the rockers or should I use like a purple power/LA awsome?
As Dixie Bandit said Do not use an alkaline based cleaner. They are corrosive and water based.

Use a Petroleum solvent based product to clean them. You can soak them but it's not as effective as having some type of pressurized liquid flowing over and or through them to flush out the crap.
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