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Old 12-03-2008, 09:08 AM
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Ive been having this discussion with a friend of mine who told me my head intake ports were kinda rough and need porting.

This is what I pulled off Wikipedia, I always knew there was a reason for rough intake ports, but how true is this, discuss?

It is popularly held that enlarging the ports to the maximum possible size and applying a mirror finish is what porting is. However that is not so. Some ports may be enlarged to their maximum possible size (in keeping with the highest level of aerodynamic efficiency) but those engines are highly developed very high speed units where the actual size of the ports has become a restriction. Often the size of the port is reduced to increase power. A mirror finish of the port does not provide the increase that intuition would suggest. In fact, within intake systems, the surface is usually deliberately textured to a degree of uniform roughness to encourage fuel deposited on the port walls to evaporate quickly. A rough surface on selected areas of the port may also alter flow by energizing the boundary layer, which can alter the flow path noticeably, possibly increasing flow. This is similar to what the dimples on a golf ball do. Flow bench testing shows that the difference between a mirror finished intake port and a rough textured port is typically less than 1%. The difference between a smooth to the touch port and an optically mirrored surface is not measurable by ordinary means. Exhaust ports may be smooth finished because of the dry gas flow and in the interest of minimizing exhaust by-product build-up. A 300 - 400 Grit finish followed by a light buff is generally accepted to be representative of a near optimal finish for exhaust gas ports.
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I give Wikipedia about 0.0000003% for giving any type of useful information. If polishing was not effective, why would so many porters do it?
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Originally Posted by ls1290
I give Wikipedia about 0.0000003% for giving any type of useful information. If polishing was not effective, why would so many porters do it?
Thats exactly why I mentioned where I got it from, however trust me they got very useful FACTUAL information as well

Im not defending them, but I guess the argument there is that PORTING is not simply enlarging the ports and having them be smooth mirror-like.
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Normally heads are only "polished" on the exhaust side, and the intake side is left "as machined"

I dont know the physics behind it but i think Wikipedias info is at least somewhat on track.
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the thing is with the rough ports below the injector will help the fuel mix with the turbelunt air .but for something you are revving high and racing you will want a nice smooth port for better airflow.
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Originally Posted by lt170chevelle
the thing is with the rough ports below the injector will help the fuel mix with the turbelunt air .but for something you are revving high and racing you will want a nice smooth port for better airflow.
I'm not so sure on this, i believe the machining on a port actually helps flow, same reason why a golf ball has dimples in it and is not completely smooth, it travels farther because there is less drag- allows for more velocity. I remember reading a really good post on this site a long time ago, but have no idea where it is now...
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I just read the wiki post, its pretty well on target haha, even mentions the golf ball! The smooth port allows the separation or break down of the boundary layer which reduces velocity = not what you want.
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I leave like an 80 grit finish in the intake & polish the exhaust. I don't know if it beneficial but that is the way I was taught.
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^the reason why golf ***** are smooth has little to do with velocity. It has a lot more to do with spin, and allowing the ball to lift (however, this allows the ball to travel further). You were partially correct. Anyways I'm hoping someone with credentials and experience wants to join in this discussion, definitely would be interesting to find out.



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