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Old 01-27-2014, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by coltboostin
Great-Great build-silly as it may be I love that you Mig'd everything!!! Real backyard mechanics use MIGS
Thanks!! it's the best way to learn! haha I'm seriously considering buying a TIG in the next couple weeks.
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Man you're doing a hell of a job. Don't you dare take that thing out on test drives over the next few icy days. Nobody in Austin knows how to drive with ice in the mix.

And jeebus christo.....those calipers.....flippin' gigantor....
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Originally Posted by WstSidHomE
Man you're doing a hell of a job. Don't you dare take that thing out on test drives over the next few icy days. Nobody in Austin knows how to drive with ice in the mix.

And jeebus christo.....those calipers.....flippin' gigantor....
Thanks man! oh, no worries. I'm reluctant to even take my daily out in this. Bad weather brings all the idiots out on the roads.

I have a feeling these calipers will help slow this thing down, even with the added weight of the iron block and t56. maybe in the next week or two i'll have it back together enough to take it around and bed the pads and see how they perform.
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well, I haven't had an update lately as I've been troubleshooting several things.

had a p/s leak in the rack, attempted a rebuild that failed epically, then finally settled on a reman'd rack.

Then I've been battling overheating issues. I caved and ditched my current setup to something else.

Old set up was a C&R single pass with dual 12" pusher fans and a 160* tstat.

Now i'm going with a Griffin 52801-x, dual 1.25" core, dual pass, a single zirgo 14" puller fan and an OEM 180* tstat.

i'm doing a custom tucked radiator setup to move the rad 3" away from the motor and turbo piping. this requires a little fab work that I haven't fully completed yet, but I have a few pics of where i'm at right now. I hope to have more progress over the next week or so.

pic of rad and new fan
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hole in the upper rad support for the rad filler neck
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notched about 3/8" from the lower rad support. i'll be welding this up to regain rigidity from notching
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front view of temp mounting
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engine side view of temp mounting
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new clearance I have to mount the 14" puller. I have right at 1" of space between the fan motor and exhaust. hopefully this will be enough
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I just need to figure out now to mount it to the car to be strong enough to support the weight.

Hopefully I'll have more updates in the next 2 weeks.
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I took the day off of from work yesterday to get a little bit of work done, as time on the weekends just doesn't exist anymore.

I worked more on my tucked radiator setup.

First I boxed in the lower rad support. prep and paint should happen over the weekend.....maybe
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Then I welded on 1" pieces of 3/8" alum rod to each side of the radiator to mimic the OEM upper mounts and reused the stock rubber isolators. I made a couple of brackets that still need to be trimmed and them bolted to the core support to fully mount the radiator.
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incredible fab work. can't wait to see this thing!
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Slow, Slow progress with the tucked radiator, but coming down the how stretch....hopefully.

Big thing to do was to clean up the upper core support and repaint as drilling a 3.5" hole and notching for the upper outlet did some damage to my nice(ish) paint.

prepped and sanded with 340 grit
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2 coats of 2k primer/surfacer
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Prepped and wet sanded with 800 grit
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Finally, 2 coats of single stage jet black base
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Tonight and hopefully later this week I strip all of the masking off and starting mounting everything back on to the car.

Big plans for this weekend are to bleed the coolant and test to make sure the new setup is working properly. Then hopefully, i'll be able to put some miles on it to get an alignment done.
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I got some work done over the weekend and completed my tucked radiator setup, well, for the time being.

I got it all buttoned up and decided to take it for a test drive to get an alignment. it did pretty good for the most part until I got stuck in traffic or at lights, then it started to warm up again. once I got moving it cooled back down some but still a little warm for my liking. The upper hose is very close to the exhaust, i some heat wrap on the way for that. I took it back apart again and am working on building a custom fan shroud as well as adding a surge tank to aid in bleeding coolant. More details on this over the weekend.

On to some pics

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awesome! looking good!
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Alignment is done, and we're on the road!

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I've added an external surge tank from Keyser Manufacturing to help with the cooling issues I've been having. Huge help but still have some kinks to work out.
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I've also finally mounted my Saikou Michi dual catch can and routed all lines.
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Here's the final bay setup. I don't plan of changing anything else at the moment.
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Here are some general shots of the car as it sits now. It's about 98% complete right now, hatch wiring, couple of interior panels, glove box, headliner, etc.
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Finally, I've got an in car vid of the last few miles of my way back home from getting the alignment. Feels damn good to drive it again.

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Nice to be drivable again huh? Congrats on that, good to see you're getting it to this point!
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Awesome and congrats....I'm sure it feels amazing finally getting to drive her.
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Originally Posted by 2muchboostNY
Awesome and congrats....I'm sure it feels amazing finally getting to drive her.
It's nice, just a little more to go!
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Nice to be drivable again huh? Congrats on that, good to see you're getting it to this point!
Absolutely! Appreciate it! Hopefully we can meet up around town one day...
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awesome! looking good!
Thanks man!!
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Well, I've got some Good new and some Bad news.

Good News - I think I've discovered what's been causing my ongoing overheating issues

Bad News - motor has to come apart

I finally decided to do a combustion leak test (http://www.arrowheadradiator.com/hea..._leak_test.htm) on my setup to be 100% sure. Sure enough, I have a leak. Here's the strange thing though....no signs of coolant in exhaust..no white smoke, no mixing of coolant in oil or oil in coolant, leak down test was consistent across all 8 cylinders (30%) and compression was between 145-150 psi across all 8.

In the process of pulling heads to inspect the headgaskets (LS9 MLS) and will take my 317 heads to get inspected for possible cracks or warping. IF all come back good, I guess i'll be taking apart the block
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Car looks really good! Ive got a soft spot for 240s, always liked them. Really sucks about the tear down though.
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Originally Posted by 91 240
Well, I've got some Good new and some Bad news.

Good News - I think I've discovered what's been causing my ongoing overheating issues

Bad News - motor has to come apart

I finally decided to do a combustion leak test (http://www.arrowheadradiator.com/hea..._leak_test.htm) on my setup to be 100% sure. Sure enough, I have a leak. Here's the strange thing though....no signs of coolant in exhaust..no white smoke, no mixing of coolant in oil or oil in coolant, leak down test was consistent across all 8 cylinders (30%) and compression was between 145-150 psi across all 8.

In the process of pulling heads to inspect the headgaskets (LS9 MLS) and will take my 317 heads to get inspected for possible cracks or warping. IF all come back good, I guess i'll be taking apart the block
I wouldn't go pulling a motor apart based on that one test. Esp since all the other tests were fine. I'd pressure test the radiator next. Also with a pressure gauge on rad, rev the engine up pretty good and watch the gauge. If combustion is leaking into the rad it will show up very clearly. Shud push into your rad catch can as well if it was bad enough to cause overheating.

You did such an awesome job with everything else, I'd give the fan setup a little more attention. Even if you do end up having to pull the heads that fan setup is horrible. Get a nice sealed shroud of some sort on there and make sure your fan is up to snuff CFM wise. 2100ish cfm across 75% of the core is pretty poor.

My setup is is a joke compared to yours, but I cool the engine easily with a 14"x14" core "half" radiator and a large IC blocking it completely. I used a ford taurus fan cut to fit the core exactly and sealed on with RTV. (3200 CFM on low,
6000 CFM on high running right off the alt)

On a 90* day I don't see over 190* sitting in traffic. I can usually get it down to 172ish at night in the staging lanes before a pass.

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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
I wouldn't go pulling a motor apart based on that one test. Esp since all the other tests were fine. I'd pressure test the radiator next. Also with a pressure gauge on rad, rev the engine up pretty good and watch the gauge. If combustion is leaking into the rad it will show up very clearly. Shud push into your rad catch can as well if it was bad enough to cause overheating. You did such an awesome job with everything else, I'd give the fan setup a little more attention. Even if you do end up having to pull the heads that fan setup is horrible. Get a nice sealed shroud of some sort on there and make sure your fan is up to snuff CFM wise. 2100ish cfm across 75% of the core is pretty poor. My setup is is a joke compared to yours, but I cool the engine easily with a 14"x14" core "half" radiator and a large IC blocking it completely. I used a ford taurus fan cut to fit the core exactly and sealed on with RTV. (3200 CFM on low, 6000 CFM on high running right off the alt) On a 90* day I don't see over 190* sitting in traffic. I can usually get it down to 172ish at night in the staging lanes before a pass.
I second this. My car had similar issues and I finally resolved it with the Taurus fan. It pulls a ton more air on low speed than the Spal fan that I originally tried could ever hope to. On high speed it's obvious why it works so well. Try the OEM fan. It's easy to cut the shroud if you need to make it smaller.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
I wouldn't go pulling a motor apart based on that one test. Esp since all the other tests were fine. I'd pressure test the radiator next. Also with a pressure gauge on rad, rev the engine up pretty good and watch the gauge. If combustion is leaking into the rad it will show up very clearly. Shud push into your rad catch can as well if it was bad enough to cause overheating.

You did such an awesome job with everything else, I'd give the fan setup a little more attention. Even if you do end up having to pull the heads that fan setup is horrible. Get a nice sealed shroud of some sort on there and make sure your fan is up to snuff CFM wise. 2100ish cfm across 75% of the core is pretty poor.

My setup is is a joke compared to yours, but I cool the engine easily with a 14"x14" core "half" radiator and a large IC blocking it completely. I used a ford taurus fan cut to fit the core exactly and sealed on with RTV. (3200 CFM on low,
6000 CFM on high running right off the alt)

On a 90* day I don't see over 190* sitting in traffic. I can usually get it down to 172ish at night in the staging lanes before a pass.
forgot to post this earlier, but I've added a sealed shroud that I made. Shroud made absolutely no difference. temps still hit 240+ after an easy 5-10 minute drive. and yes, overflow bottle was boiling. running straight distilled water with a bottle of WaterWetter.

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Slight update. tore the motor down and took the heads to get checked out. Had them pressure tested and came back good. Ended up needing .008 to resurface the heads flat. Not sure if that was from the overheating issues I was having or poor machine work from the initial build.

New LS9 head gaskets and valves seals are at home, so the reassembly starts tonight. Hopefully things go better this time around.
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Originally Posted by 91 240
Slight update. tore the motor down and took the heads to get checked out. Had them pressure tested and came back good. Ended up needing .008 to resurface the heads flat. Not sure if that was from the overheating issues I was having or poor machine work from the initial build.

New LS9 head gaskets and valves seals are at home, so the reassembly starts tonight. Hopefully things go better this time around.
So what do you think it was?


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