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Old 12-25-2014, 11:48 PM
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I had the exact same cooling issues on my turbo setup with my 2" x 16" x 26" cored Griffin rad using a single 2700cfm 16" fan. With a standard 3" x 12" x 26" intercooler stacked right in front of the rad, the fan just couldn't pull enough air thru it all to cool the engine. From a cold start in decent 15*C weather, it would climb to 200*F just idling, and just putt-putt'ing around it would climb to 220*F quickly. If I dabbled into boosty 4th gear pulls at highway speed it wouldn't drop below 230*F with 130km/h air ramming into the IC & lower part of rad (I have pretty good frontal flow with my grill as well as the holes in the bumper.. much better than a S13). If I dabbled in half-boosty pulls on the street it would climb to 235+*F and I just had to pull over and turn it off with the fan still running.

All this was done just throughout one day.. needless to say it was the only day I had that Griffin rad in the car. I ended up going back to my previous thinner-core (1.25" thick) rad and dual 1650cfm fans and it stays at 180-190 after boosty boosty boostboost pulls just on the street. Boost on the highway keeps it at 180, and idling in traffic is 180 or sometimes lower.
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nice, i havent had any issues with the stock radiator and a nice mazda single fan, i guess we will see what happens in ocean city in the summer!

but also i had to get an alum rad, since this one leaks in 20 spots haha

100 dollar eslay rad

summer driving report will tell, but it cools really well as is.
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I haven't updated in a while. I've been driving as much as I can lately, right about 500 miles. weather has finally cleared up here in Tx so it's been pretty nice. Temps are holding a solid 180-195.

I've got a dyno session scheduled for 2/26 to get tuned, so I hope to have some numbers posted in the next 2 weeks! Vids to come too, can't have a dyno session without vids

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awesome work!
Thanks man, I looked back at your 240 LS-T build a while back, haven't seen it in a while.

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When all else fails... cut a big hole!
Function over form, right? haha

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I had the exact same cooling issues on my turbo setup with my 2" x 16" x 26" cored Griffin rad using a single 2700cfm 16" fan. With a standard 3" x 12" x 26" intercooler stacked right in front of the rad, the fan just couldn't pull enough air thru it all to cool the engine. From a cold start in decent 15*C weather, it would climb to 200*F just idling, and just putt-putt'ing around it would climb to 220*F quickly. If I dabbled into boosty 4th gear pulls at highway speed it wouldn't drop below 230*F with 130km/h air ramming into the IC & lower part of rad (I have pretty good frontal flow with my grill as well as the holes in the bumper.. much better than a S13). If I dabbled in half-boosty pulls on the street it would climb to 235+*F and I just had to pull over and turn it off with the fan still running.

All this was done just throughout one day.. needless to say it was the only day I had that Griffin rad in the car. I ended up going back to my previous thinner-core (1.25" thick) rad and dual 1650cfm fans and it stays at 180-190 after boosty boosty boostboost pulls just on the street. Boost on the highway keeps it at 180, and idling in traffic is 180 or sometimes lower.
crazy, I can see how a thinner core will aid in flow just never done a side by side comparison
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At the dyno right now getting tuned.

We are at 568/507 at 7psi (wg spring pressure).

More to come. Pics and vids included
Old 02-27-2015, 01:42 AM
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Today was a good day. Got the car tuned today and it was pretty damn solid. Not quite what I was hoping to get, but definitely met my expectations.

Final numbers:

608whp and 526wtrq at 8psi

we were limited to boost based on my EBC not responding and relying on waste gate spring pressue ~ 7-8psi.

Fuel was only hitting 70% duty cycle so there was definitely more left in it.

12-15psi could have put us into 650+whp. oh well, i'll definitely be back for more.

right now, it's still a chore to handle this much power in such a little/light car.

Here are some vids from the day.

568whp at 7psi

590whp at 7psi - fedex guy wanted to take a peek

608whp at 8psi
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Nice numbers! I bet its a handful with how light they are!

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Pretty darn good for those boost levels! What did you end up with on timing? Where did it peak? Dyno sheets?
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That's pretty good power-per-psi. Id say over 700hp with 15psi. Very impressive!
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Yeah let's hear those timing numbers
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Awesome results. I can imagine she is a handful even at that power. Cant wait till you turn her up a few PSI.
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Sick!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm looking to get more from my tuner, but here's the last run.

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Looking back, he did not save the logs for the runs. however, here is my High Octane Spare table

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It's definitely a blast. I will have to relearn how to drive this thing.

I'm already thinking about upgrading to LS3 or LSA heads. I need to just stick with what I have now for a while. we'll see

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Torque curve looks nice! Just turn the boost **** if you want more power... heads are overrated on SBE builds IMO!
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Great work. Looks like full song @ 3k which will be great fun on the street! My timing table looks about the same-much higher than the "babysoft" guys like to see.


Also a note-are you on a single 38mm gate?
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Originally Posted by jay_rich
Nice numbers! I bet its a handful with how light they are!

Jay
thanks! I haven't done much yet, but it's been interesting already

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Pretty darn good for those boost levels! What did you end up with on timing? Where did it peak? Dyno sheets?
Thanks man!

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That's pretty good power-per-psi. Id say over 700hp with 15psi. Very impressive!
that was my actual target, not that it would be useable in any way. just a fun number to have.

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Yeah let's hear those timing numbers
how do my timing numbers compare to what you have in your TT Z? Love your car, btw

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Awesome results. I can imagine she is a handful even at that power. Cant wait till you turn her up a few PSI.
YES!!!


Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Torque curve looks nice! Just turn the boost **** if you want more power... heads are overrated on SBE builds IMO!
yeah, i'm definitely not used to having that much torque, that soon, for that long. Need to isolate my issue or upgrade to an Eboost2 or something. Pardon my ignorance, SBE?

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Great work. Looks like full song @ 3k which will be great fun on the street! My timing table looks about the same-much higher than the "babysoft" guys like to see.


Also a note-are you on a single 38mm gate?
Nice! Thanks. yeah, i'm on a single JGS 40mm gate
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SBE= Stock Bottom End. I had forgot you are running aftermarket rods/pistons. Crank that sucker up!

Either way before upgrading heads, you could make a ton more power with boost. I’d guess you have a boost/exh leak, need more spring pressure, or different WG routing. For less than $20 worth of parts my dash mounted manual boost controller gives me between 9 and 25+lbs very reliably. How is yours plumbed? Are you using top and bottom WG ports? Do you have a stiffer spring you can install in your WG? If you do go with another boost controller I’d look into progressive units. It’s almost mandatory for any kind of traction on the street at higher boost levels.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
SBE= Stock Bottom End. I had forgot you are running aftermarket rods/pistons. Crank that sucker up!

Either way before upgrading heads, you could make a ton more power with boost. I’d guess you have a boost/exh leak, need more spring pressure, or different WG routing. For less than $20 worth of parts my dash mounted manual boost controller gives me between 9 and 25+lbs very reliably. How is yours plumbed? Are you using top and bottom WG ports? Do you have a stiffer spring you can install in your WG? If you do go with another boost controller I’d look into progressive units. It’s almost mandatory for any kind of traction on the street at higher boost levels.
I just started thinking about heads for efficiency....same power with less boost. would help the cam breathe a little better up top as well. Just a thought I've been tossing around.

as for my BC setup, yes i'm using both top and bottom ports on the WG. I do have a 10psi spring I can switch out if need be.

I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the Eboost2 for the boost by gear mapping. limiting a few psi in 1-3 gears "could" help traction issues
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Awesome build!!!

Where did you get the adapter brackets for the ctsv calipers? Wouldn't mind some on my s13.
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Originally Posted by Busa_rob
Awesome build!!!

Where did you get the adapter brackets for the ctsv calipers? Wouldn't mind some on my s13.
Thanks man! The brackets are from Mazworx and require a decent amount of grinding to the back side of the caliper. http://www.mazworx.com/store/p/87-Ma...s-S13-S14.aspx

here's another set that require less grinding, but are more expensive. I kinda link these http://www.ctsvbrakeswap.com/nissan/...aliper-bracket
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Originally Posted by 91 240
Thanks man! The brackets are from Mazworx and require a decent amount of grinding to the back side of the caliper. http://www.mazworx.com/store/p/87-Ma...s-S13-S14.aspx

here's another set that require less grinding, but are more expensive. I kinda link these http://www.ctsvbrakeswap.com/nissan/...aliper-bracket
Thanks man, I appreciate it! How's the car stop over the z32 brakes? Those things already stop awesome on an s chassis. Couldn't imagin the v brakes.


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