Originally Posted by SteenH
I agree they can be overlooked, but many of these 8.8s aren't the money savers that most of the people who swap them claim them to be. If you can do it on the real cheap I think it's a no brainer on the 8.8.
If not it's hard to overlook an s60/ 12 bolt for around the $2100 USD mark (35 spline ready to rock). Another thing to keep in mind is the mustang guys aren't utilizing a torque arm, which twists the **** out of the housing, making them more prone to be noisy than others.
Typically a 12 bolt will take any abuse you can throw at it, without a piece of **** posi unit inside of course.
Anyone **** talking the 12 bolt more than likely haven't owned one, or know nobody using one. Lord knows everyone on this site has to praise the rear they chose, which is always far superior to every other.
Keep it in the budget, do what you're happy with at the end of the day.
You're missing my point. Regardless of budget (you can take a 12 bolt, 9", S60, or any other rearend and put it up against) I would choose a 8.8 over other rearends as being the best all around rearend for a powerful streetcar. When you look at all criteria (cost and size of aftermarket, reliability, streetabilty, weight, size, strength for its bulk, availability, efficiency, gear options, differential options, how proven it is, etc) IMO the 8.8 just wins out over other rearends. It just has a huge resume of being an excellent rearend for powerful cars not looking to make 2000 HP. Its been used in much more potent factory vehicles than any of the other rearends that Fbody guys consider. Many of Foxbody/SN95 guys convert their POS 4 link setups for torque arms, and the S197 uses a 3 link setup that's inferior to a torque arm setup and these guys don't complain about weird noises coming from 8.8's in powerful manual cars. Plenty of GT500 and Coyote guys have clicked off tons of single digit passes on bone stock 8.8's with zero issues. Others opinions may differ but in my honest non-bias option I would rather use a 8.8 for what I would want my car to do than any other rearend that has been developed. It excels at being an excellent rearend for DR'ing, DD'ing, being used on a car that handles, etc. It has very few compromises setup correctly. (using a 31+ spline setup)
Let me put it another way. Not taking in to account price if given an option for any rearend people run in a Fbody and they're all built using the same component I would rather use a 8.8 unless I was running a powerful car build for hardcore DR'ing. IMO the 8.8 is that good so when I see people acting like they're getting some inferior rearend for the price if they don't get a build 8.8 for less than $1,200 I call BS. There is nothing wrong with spending $2,300+ on a 8.8 as you will likely have a nice rearend built with better components than other rearends you pay that same price for.
I agree with you that you should build your car how you want to build it. You're modding it because it's something you enjoy. If you don't want to put a Ford rearend on your GM product I get it. There's nothing wrong with that just like there's nothing wrong with a Ford guy not wanting to use a GM motor in a Ford regardless of the benefits that come with it. I use to have the bias even though I don't anymore. Still acting like a 8.8 is an inferior rearend to other popular performance rearends is incorrect when talking streetcars. They're not the best rearends for everything, but compared to other rearend there's many benefits to them. I understand that the hybrid 8.8/10 bolt is somewhat a compromise as the smaller 10 bolt axle tubes limit the axle diameter if I'm not mistaken, but even a 31 spline axle is pretty stout and the largest ever offered from the factory. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the 33 or 35 spline axles will fit a hybrid 8.8/10 bolt?
I would also agree that people shouldn't look to overpay for a 8.8 either as they are generally cheaper than other rearends and why spend more than you have to for something?