feel like i just got screwed and couldn't do a thing about it
10-04-2010, 08:06 PM
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feel like i just got screwed and couldn't do a thing about it So just installed longtube headers took to exhause shop to get ory. Original plans ory 3" into a flowmaster 3" to 4" merge and runnin 4" I as far back as i cud then into rest of exhaust. He wouldn't let me do an ory cause it had to have cats so he's putting one on the passenger side. He said that there is no point for the merge and 4" piping. And that it wouldn't fit right with the merge cause it would be to far over. So getting ypipe made with a cat and connecting to my exhaust is $360 dollars with flange kit. what do you guys think?
I had my car trailered there cause they did a good job on my dads chevelle. Too loud and far with straight headers to go. And I pretty much had to get it done there cause my dad wouldn't have wanted to trailer it somewhere else. the guy was trying to make me feel like an idiot and i don't know crap about it since im 17. Oh and he goes on saying that from the headers I prolly picked up like 60hp
I had my car trailered there cause they did a good job on my dads chevelle. Too loud and far with straight headers to go. And I pretty much had to get it done there cause my dad wouldn't have wanted to trailer it somewhere else. the guy was trying to make me feel like an idiot and i don't know crap about it since im 17. Oh and he goes on saying that from the headers I prolly picked up like 60hp
Does the county require cats/emissions that you live in??
10-04-2010, 08:17 PM
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So you had a shop tell you what to do with your car? And you're paying for it? I wouldve left.
I would think that one cat only would do more damge than good. Now, if they were to put it after the merge in the I-pipe, that could equalize things out.
If I walked into a restraunt and ordered a steak, and the chef came out and said I'm getting fish and am going to pay for it....
I would think that one cat only would do more damge than good. Now, if they were to put it after the merge in the I-pipe, that could equalize things out.
If I walked into a restraunt and ordered a steak, and the chef came out and said I'm getting fish and am going to pay for it....
10-04-2010, 08:17 PM
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Yeah, if your State requires cats/emmissions, then you are going to have a hard time finding a shop that will do the work that you were asking for. And 60 horses would be great, but no way...He's a dumbass.
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If you're in a state that has strict emmisions, a lot of shops wont do ORY's because it brings the liability back on them. 60hp from long tubes? thats a bit of a stretch, but they'll give you a kick in the pants. If at the back of your exhaust it is factory or smaller than 4", then he's right, a 4" I pipe isnt needed because the rear of your exhaust is still the bottle neck. Honestly $360 dollars to me for a catted Y pipe, flanged, fabbed, and installed doesnt sound like a bad deal, especially if you've had previouse work done there before and were happy with the results. If you really want an ORY, look at some of the sponsers on here that sell them and instal it yourself with the help of some friends. Its a really easy job to do.
10-04-2010, 08:41 PM
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So you had a shop tell you what to do with your car? And you're paying for it? I wouldve left.
I would think that one cat only would do more damge than good. Now, if they were to put it after the merge in the I-pipe, that could equalize things out.
If I walked into a restraunt and ordered a steak, and the chef came out and said I'm getting fish and am going to pay for it....
I would think that one cat only would do more damge than good. Now, if they were to put it after the merge in the I-pipe, that could equalize things out.
If I walked into a restraunt and ordered a steak, and the chef came out and said I'm getting fish and am going to pay for it....
10-04-2010, 08:44 PM
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I should have and I know that now. I just wanted it to tuck up nice and have the merge to cut out rasp and then have a cut out so I was going to have the shop do that part. But going to have to wait on the cutout now
10-04-2010, 08:47 PM
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If you put the bungs too far back, it'll be pointless running sensors. The exhaust will have cooled off too much for them to take accurate readings...you'll still have ses lights.
Unfortunately, you're taking a step backwards. If you want an ory pipe, order one and install it yourself, as already stated.
It's upsetting knowing that a shop isn't going to give you what you pay for, however, I do see where the owner is coming from. But still...
Unfortunately, you're taking a step backwards. If you want an ory pipe, order one and install it yourself, as already stated.
It's upsetting knowing that a shop isn't going to give you what you pay for, however, I do see where the owner is coming from. But still...
10-04-2010, 10:20 PM
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Remove your plates, trailer car in like you did anyways, and tell them it is a drag car only. You dont need cats for "off road use" right?
10-04-2010, 11:57 PM
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Yeah well it's done with now if its all done well and tucked up nicely i'll be happy. I just didn't like how he was trying to make me sound like I didn't know a damn thing yeah i'm only almost 18 but I didn't just spend the money and everything on headers and not research the best setup and how everyone else does it. So as for clearance there should be around like a coke can or whatever if it's done well correct (driver side)? On a postive note header install wasn't bad at all went quite smoothly. And just got my gloss black berger panel with stainless steel camaro inserts and ss with hurst equipped badge, looking on the positive side of the weekend.
10-05-2010, 12:00 AM
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And 60hp i know right thats at the point where i'm thinking wellll i'm sure he hasn't ever worked with an ls motor and why the hell am I here. I'm hoping to pick up maybe 30? prolly a little less.
10-05-2010, 12:23 AM
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Well, given they are doing flanges, you can always use the metal rod mod. Jack the car up, drop the exhaust, then take a big metal rod and smash out the cats guts and shake em out. Kinda a waste of money with new cats, but I know a few guys who've done it in places that usually only visually inspect the car.
You'd of probably had better luck with running 3" into a 4" I, back into a 3" cat-back. The velcoity change into the 4" helps with scavenging and the 3" isn't much of a bottle neck.
You'd of probably had better luck with running 3" into a 4" I, back into a 3" cat-back. The velcoity change into the 4" helps with scavenging and the 3" isn't much of a bottle neck.