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Old 04-18-2005, 09:05 AM
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Default Possible problem with bolt-ons?

I posted this up in the dyno section but have yet to get a single response, so let me try it out here:

Ok well I decided to dyno the T/A today on a local dyno that i'll be using for all future dyno needs, so natrually I wanted a base-line to work with. I previously dyno'd the car at a remote dyno to the tune of 330whp/340wtq with the same mods as current (lid w/ K&N, !FRA, Magnaflow catback), nothings changed, and todays numbers were 341whp/347wtq.

Now there's no doubt this dyno is a little on the generous side, but I think this was a bit more than I expected. But anyways, what really caught my attention, aside from the numbers, were 2 things:

1- My A/F was 13.0-13.2 through the entire run, every run. Mind you this is a stock PCM and the only mods are those stated above.

2- During the 2nd and 3rd passes, there was an audible presence of knock starting at about 5300-5500rpm. That last two runs were cut about 500rpm short because of the pinging, yet it still netted 339 & 341whp respectivley.

As I noted earlier, this car only runs an aftermarket lid with a K&N drop in, !FRA mods and the catback. Stock PCM, 93 octane. The day was certainly a little cooler than when I dyno'd it previously, but for the record, the dyno operator (actually a personal friend of mine) did note that I laid down a good deal more than a number of other similarly modded LS1's have. Even my other good friend with a '00 T/A only put down 356whp with an FPIK, same catback and a set of Hooker LT's / ORY. I'm certainly not complaining about the output, but this knocking business has me concerned and that A/F for a stock PCM is definatley out of the ordinary for anythig OEM i've ever seen.

Any ideas?
Old 04-18-2005, 09:18 AM
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you have added mods...they change the a/f...fyi you are wanting a 12.8-13.5 af ratio so i think you should be happy...i don't know why you would be pinging...
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Originally Posted by 777
you have added mods...they change the a/f...
I understand, but doesn't the PCM 'learn' to readjust the mixture after mods? Every other PCM I've dealt with in an aftermarket/modded sense does this, I was just wondering why this one didn't.




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