Pnsh3r

My Pacesetter LTs got here a couple of days ago, and today I finally had some time to put them on. I've settled for those headers after reading alot of posts about how they are best bang for the buck, good fit & finish & no clearance issues. Well, I don't know if it just my luck or what - but, I've been proven otherwise.
So, went into the shop - removed everything needed to be removed to get to the headers. Took the stockers down, started putting the LTs in & that is when it struck me ----Pacesetters would not fit!!! Could not even work them up into place. But I remembered reading about having to notch the K-Member & I proceded to do so... After some notching I was finally able to slide them up, but that is when I found out something even worse. Top of the headers would not go flush against the block. Upper part would be open still & the only thing I could do is to trim on the side (right across from the oil filter). Did that,... about 2" later (which I most def should not have done) I could finally line them up on the top. ANd then... I have come to realize that the freaking O2 sensor bung is ON THE TOP!!!!!!! And there is no way that o2 sensor could be fitted in between the collector and the bottom of the car.. .
So, to sum it up... 8 hours or hard fu*&* labor wasted, Fu&*ed up K-member, and back to stock (I did replace the spark plugs though). Because headers were not bent enough on the top, and whoever was welding on the collector did not pay attention to which way the o2 sensor is facing.

And here is a pic of the headers

dnm12

iTrader: (13)

call up pacesetter something needs to be done about that you cannot even get the o2 in!!!!!

Pnsh3r

i called texas speed (I bought it from them) and they told me to send them some pics. So, I am gonna do that right now.... This freaking sucks though - and I dude do not feel like doing it all again :/

2xLS1

iTrader: (25)

And why does the pass side header have a provision for EGR but neither header has provisions for AIR?

Pnsh3r

beats me... I ordered it without the EGR.... :/

RrCoX22

iTrader: (6)

i think you got some headers that were fabbed up in Chernobyl

Order 66

I know pacesetter headers are a good bang for the buck but i think the guy who was building that header was drinking or something. Wrong O2 location and no air fittings.

LS69TA

iTrader: (30)

Damn, that blows. Too bad you didn't notice that before going through all that trouble.

Pnsh3r

do I still need AIR fittings if I am gonna do the air remove mod and remove the EGR?

staringback05

iTrader: (8)

or there just french

TWS

iTrader: (63)

hmm... sorry to hear that. I put Pacesetters on my '99 "the Smurf" maybe 1.5 or 2 years ago. Was not a real hard install. Just had to loosen the motormounts and raise the engine about an inch. Some people say even that is not necessary, but it was in my case.

My problem is the damn Pacesetter off-road Y-pipe. I can't get that fugger to stop banging when I let the clutch in. However, the headers have been fine. I even still have EGR and AIR.

burnzilla

iTrader: (3)

Sounds like you got the short straw of the bunch, but it happens.
Send'em back and get another set from somewhere else.
You wont regret having them on there.

Full-Force

iTrader: (11)

without pics I wouldnt have believed it

those headers are all wrong and are NOT typical of Pacesetters

Pacesetter headers ARE the best bang for buck and install easier than any of the heade


air hookup missing from both headers

o2 bung on top of one header (should be to inside)

o2 bung on outside of one header (should be to inside)

I swear, its almost like a practical joke those headers are so messed up.

AdamSS

iTrader: (3)

It's a sabotage !!!! The guy that welded them probably worked for FORD !

That sucks...TSP will take care of you, and will sent you the right stuff. Take 2 weeks off...cool down emotionaly and re-attempt the header swap....you'll be happy again ! I promise !

ChocoTaco369

lol i don't think pacesetter messed anything up. i bet you texas speed did and sent you headers for a different car. i bet they sent you LT1 headers or something. check to see if there is a model # anywhere on the inside or outside of the headers. i bet you have the part number for a different car

maybe someone at the warehouse was drinking

staringback05

iTrader: (8)

but drinking in texas is normal...surely it wouldnt make a difference....i mean hell my cousin is drunk in houston when he drives a bus...lol

Doc

iTrader: (9)

That is just wrong. Those headers are just not right. I feel for you man.


Dude, have you tried a mufflex y pipe clamp?

ChocoTaco369

i'm telling you man, they weren't pacesetter's fault, it was TSP's. they weren't assembled wrong, you just got sent the wrong headers that are made for a different car


TSP is a great company but no company is void of making mistakes i.e. putting LT1 headers in the box instead of LS1 headers

ls2 bait

iTrader: (11)

that sux man. my headers slid in like they were coated in butter and lined up perfectly. it took me less than 3 hrs to do the job which says how nice they fit. no loosing motor mounts, notchin k members, nothing.

ShevrolayZ28

iTrader: (4)

Dude, you're wrong. Look at the flanges. Look at the exhaust ports. LT1's have square ports and they are located all together differently.

Sorry to the thread starter. This sucks for you. I guess you'll look parts over very carefully next time.