Arc00TA

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Well, I've been eyeballing a set of AFR 205's for a while now and I think I might pull the trigger. My setup right now consists of an 03 LS6 longblock out of a C5Z, 224/224 .581/.581 114LSA cam, 1 3/4 Long tubes and BBK intake manifold, all the other assorted things like P&P TB and MAF, lid, UDP, etc. I made 422/402 with this setup (through a slipping clutch), but I don't like the throttle response right now. Since it is a street car only and I'm not looking for massive dyno numbers, does this sound like a good idea? Basically I'm trying to compliment my existing setup with a well designed smaller runner head, and the CARB EO number doesn't hurt since I'm in cali.

Is the price of the heads worth it? What should I expect to gain, and more importantly will it have the effect I'm looking for of adding a little more snappiness if I jab the gas? I'm open to suggestions, I haven't seen many heads in the 205-210cc range for sale these days.

BriancWS6

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Those heads will rock with your setup. Part throttle tip in with the 205s is awesome with the small runners. Have them milled down to at least 62cc and run a .040 gasket and you'll be all smiles.

eatlead

I agree. The 205 intake runner generates so much velocity that it will make your car quicker and help take some of the lag out.

Arc00TA

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Thats what I was hoping for. Those heads seem to do really well with a small symmetrical cam so I think I'm going to order them tomorrow. Anyone have #s for a setup like this?

BriancWS6

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You do have 243 heads with the LS6 long block, which are better than the 241s or 853s that the LS1s used. Even so, you should still see a solid 30-35rwhp bump, not to mention the torque and power under the curve.

I gained 92rwhp and 38rwtq when I installed my AFR 205s and a mild cam back in 06.

Arc00TA

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Thats a solid bump, I would honestly be happy with 20hp more if it let me crack the whip a little more when I'm passing in traffic, etc. Sounds like I made a solid choice from what you guys are saying.

j_dover

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i got some trick flow 205's

BriancWS6

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You'll definitely see that 20+

LilJayV10

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Then why are you still looking for heads? I didn't know trick flow made a 205 head.

j_dover

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for my other motor :] yea they make a 205

LilJayV10

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Sweet I had no idea. I never hear about them.

GTO1_OHIO

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My AFR 205's have done very well to date since 2005 ( see sig )

In fact now they are out with Tony being Mamofied so I expect even bigger numbers this spring.

Arc00TA

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Thats not bad at all nice numbers, I've been wondering what the price of having them worked over is. It might be worth it because I've been thinking about sticking a 402 LS2 under them somewhat later down the road.

Tony Mamo @ AFR

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And the "Mamofication" process is almost complete!!...LOL

Hi Russ....just an FYI I will be shipping your heads and ported intake on Monday

Figured that might make your weekend

OP....The 205's are great but stock 205's like a small split on the exhaust. My ported versions work well with a single patter or small split.

Consider our tried and true 224/228 cam with the headswap.....you will be really pleased with the total package if your looking for a "driver" with alot of power and good area under the curve.

-Tony

Arc00TA

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Thanks for chiming in here Tony. If you suggest to swap to that cam, I think I should probably go with your advice since you seem to know what result I'm looking for. For the first time since I've owner my f-bodies I can afford to build it how I want and not cut corners or make compromises

GTO1_OHIO

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Thanks for the update Tony. The first private track rental here is April 23 ... That'll give me a month to put things back together so that I can get some real world results to post.

Mumbles

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I don't mean to hijack, but I'm looking for some clarification...

I'm looking to add a H/C Package to my car as soon as the budget allows, so right now I'm in the research phase of the project. As of now, the plan is to get a set of AFR 205's and match them to a TSP 228R Cam. I'm looking for as smooth an idle as possible and aren't really wanting to go any bigger than the 228R on 114 LSA. I also figured with the 228R being such a popular choice, it should be easy for a Mail-Order-Tune to be spot-on.

Since reading the above post concerning the information on how the AFR's like a "split" duration cam, I have a question.

My question is, would I see better performance gains with the 224/228 cam you mentioned or possibly Comp Cams XER273HR (0.224/0.230-degrees duration at 0.050 and 0.581/0.588-inch lift on a 114 LSA) over the 228/228 of the TSP 228R? I will most definitely be going with the AFR 205's, so the only question is which small/mid-size cam will compliment the AFR's to allow for the most streetable HP?

Again, I don't mean to hijack, but this is the first time I've read anything about the AFR's liking a split duration. And the fact that the info came from Mr. AFR, Tony Mamo, what better place to ask.

Thanks...

vettenuts

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I am running that combo as well and the car definitely bolts when you just touch the gas. Bump the compression and use a thinner gasket. The tuner found he could add more timing without KR with this setup. This spring I am doing a header change to LG Pros in hopes the larger CATs and mid section will bump in a few more hp.

Michael02hawk

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Peak power is of course increased, but the AFR205's are all about the power under the curve!

Last winter I removed my stock AFR 205 heads and sent them to Tony for his magic.
No other changes to my setup, the dyno clearly showed:
- Peak/rear wheel increase 15hp
- Under the curve increased throughout the entire rpm band from 15hp up to 20hp at some points
- Torque increases were about the same.

Contact Tony, AFR sells two cams designed for their heads:
224/228 and the 234/238

I am running the 234/238 in my stroked 383 block.

SOMbitch

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Go for it!!!! AFR never dissapoints I would think my 230/234 cam would work well if you wanna go a little bigger than Tony's 224/228 cam but not as big as his 234/238 cam......