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Old 12-18-2010, 07:47 PM
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so just kinda thinking out loud and wanted to see what some of you guys think..

any way I have TSP stage 2.5 5.3 heads and a custom 232/238 6xx 6xx 111 lsa cam on xfi lobes..The cam was specced when I had aTCI 3500 stall and 3:23 gears...

Well now I have 3:73 gears and A 5c(42-4400) stall..Car runs great but thought since I really dont need to worry bout low end anymore with the new stall and gears thought about stepping up to a big cam such as the vindicator 240/244..
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How much more rwhp could one expect from switching over,and yes I know I'd have to fly cut..
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go big or go home!.. i mean if u dont care about driveability then do it,. my friend had a vindicator in his 02 ss street car and that **** ripped ***.. but he had every bolt on and etc etc..
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I don't think that would be worth he time and labor unless your really wanting to.install a ,new cam. You will gain more peak power but I doubt the car will be faster
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Ops, just read you changed you gears and stall. The indicator also be a better fit in imo, but I don't think it would justify the money spent. My 2 cents
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The low end is one thing, but also consider your shift rpm. If you aren't turning the rpm to extract the extra power out of the cam, then there is no point in running it. Auto transmissions typically dont like high rpm shifting so a built trans would be a bare minimum.
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Yeah I agree on the built trans,and where do you wanna shift at ,big cam you will be spinning it very high,I have a m6 with a ms4 and my car drives really well but you will have some bucking at lower rpms ,mine is very light,also for a big cam I would go with a higher gear than 3.73s,I love my ms4 but you got to set it up right,lifters,high gears,etc,I'm gonna run a 4.30 or 4.56 in my new rear,I will say up top my car pulls like crazy,its like the rpm just flys to 6900,also rod bolts is a good idea if you are gonna spin that high,I think you have a pretty good setup ,are there any other reasons why you want to big cam it?
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If you're running any advance on that cam try retarding it 2-4 degrees, that will give more high RPM power.
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just to clear things up..I have a built RPM transmission,and stall is a 42-4400 stall along with the 3:73..I do have katech rodbolts,ls7 lifters

just looking for a lil extra power uhm thought a bigger cam would match my new gears and stall better..but if its only gonna be 10-15 horse I'll look elsewhere..
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John what kind of numbers did the setup you have now make?would say that combo would have to make real good numbers,have you thought about spray at all?sounds like you have put together a really nice car good work,what intake are you running?
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Also what times are you running now,also it wouldn't hurt to call tsp,or another sponser and talk with them to see if they think its worth it,I just couldn't tell ya if its worth it or not,I have an opinion about it but its just a opinion.and I don't want someone to throw away money,I would say keep what ya got and get a fast and have it ported by tony mamo
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John what kind of numbers did the setup you have now make?would say that combo would have to make real good numbers,have you thought about spray at all?sounds like you have put together a really nice car good work,what intake are you running?
435rwhp 407 rwt...fast 90/90 as far as spray I have a90mm plate kit from dave with a 100 shot might step up to a150 since i saw someone sprayin a 150 with the same stall...

Just looking for a lil more power N/A..Thought about EWP butdont know how much of a gain rwhp wise i'd get from it..basically if there is something that could get me another 10-15 i might got that route..thought about going with duals




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