lilpb1

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Im stuck between two cams that i can get locally cheap. Please help me chose which is best for my application. Looking for something thats not too choppy, with good low end power and its for a DD?

Which upgrades will i need to do with springs, push rods, rockers?


2001 Camaro SS A4 mods: mac mid headers ory, ported TB and MAF, Magnaflow exhuast w/cutout.

first choice Thunder Racing CheaTR 214/230 .601/.578 117 lsa

Second choice TSP 224/224 .581"/.581" 112 lsa

Thanks in advance...

dodson55

iTrader: (18)

i would go with the 224 cam but it is going to lope being that it is a 112lsa

Sales@Tick

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224 cam hands down.

It won't chop too much, but it will make it's presence known audibly.

Keep the stock rockers, if you want you can do the trunion upgrade: http://www.tickperformance.com/comp-...union-upgrade/

And go with BTR Platinum springs which have not had a failure ever since their inception in 2005: http://www.tickperformance.com/brian...ll-ls-engines/

Also push rods: http://www.tickperformance.com/pushrods/

bernarlitt

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I would go with the TSP 224/224 .581"/.581" 112 lsa, single springs(600 lift)ex comp 918 or pac 1218, TSP 7.4'' hardened push rods, dyno tune, and the stock rocker arms will do the trick. And since you are in there in wouldn't hurt to go ahead and change to an ls2 timing chain and upgraded oil pump

SN: Not saying its the best choice of all DD cams, just what i would choose from what you have listed because i ran a similar setup when I had my TSP 228R

lilpb1

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thanks for the quick reply; i was leaning toward the TSP 224R. As for chain and oil pump i will add that to the list. Im on a budget so my next question is will any LS2 timing chain work? Push rods? New vs. used?

Rockers i was planning on upgraded the trunions and springs i will definitely get new

lilpb1

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One more question how do they compare to each other? Is one better than the other? Whats the difference?

bernarlitt

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Don't really know is there is any major differences between the two as far as performance, I was going off personal experience with TSP cams. Far as the ls2 chain I would think all of them are the same. With the push rods and chain I would say they are ok to buy used as long as you get them with low miles. You don't wanna get a set of rods and one of them end up being bent or something like that or a chain with a lot of miles and it ends up being weak and break on you.

lilpb1

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Thanks for the help. Will do.

MikeWS6

I would step up to the 228R. Same driveability, more power.

senicalj4579

iTrader: (41)

do a cam like mine

sweet99ss

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Why don't you want it to chop? It's the best sound in the world lol. I'm guessing you're wanting it to sound sleeper? If that's the case I would recomend the 224r on a 114lsa.

lilpb1

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what are the specs on your cam?

I would love it to chop but i live in Cali and my drive to work consist of at least 1 CHP to and from work. IMO not worth the chance of getting pulled over and having to replace everything back.

lilpb1

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I like this cam but at the moment these two are the one i can get locally and cheap.

garygnu

make sure you use harden push rods.just ls2 chain for $40 will work with you stock ls1 timing gear.

senicalj4579

iTrader: (41)

Only #s I can tell ya are in the sig. The rest is secret

lilpb1

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PM me the specs. I wont tell anyone.

lilpb1

iTrader: (13)

Can anyone tell me how the CheaTR cam will perform?

Pseudonym

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TSP sells the 224 with a 115 LSA. That will cut down the chop quite a bit. I would not get the CheaTR because of thunder racings reputation.

Perhaps a custom grind like 224/228 .581/.600 116+2 LSA will work for you? Im no expert though. That is why I had vengeance spec my cam.

PREDATOR-Z

Seeing that this is for Cali. and the mid length headers (weird since from what I know one can't change catalitic conv. positions) I would lean more towards -6* overlap or less. A cam similar to Cheatr specs but custom if TR has issues lately??) meaning more exhaust biased than no split 224

lilpb1

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Besides the two cams posted above; which one would you recommend that would still pass smog in case I get caught? As for headers I can easily replace them and go back to stock but a cam would too much work.