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Old 02-08-2014, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6
Another thing I just thought about is the oil pan. I am guessing with a 4.125 stroke I am either going to need to machine the oil pan for clearance or get an aftermarket one that is made to fit. In addition to clearance should I run more than 6qts with this size stroke especially if I get a larger oil pan?
Stock pan might be fine, but youll need a diff windage tray or you can space yours out (but that isnt optimal). I have a mast black label tray and it works well. The 2010 camaro pan works with a 4.125, unsure if it will fit an f-body xmember though.
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Originally Posted by DietCoke

Stock pan might be fine, but youll need a diff windage tray or you can space yours out (but that isnt optimal). I have a mast black label tray and it works well. The 2010 camaro pan works with a 4.125, unsure if it will fit an f-body xmember though.
Thanks I just saw that it looks nice and the price is good. Should I run anymore oil than normal with a stroke this size? I have never built a stroker so I am unsure.
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No, oil level is unchanged. It will be more sensitive to overfilling because the crank throw is longer. You will need some sort of improved PCV system, the stock venting will not keep up with a 4.125 stroke and it will pressurize the bottom end/push oil. I recommend either -10 vents from each valve cover to a catch can (or cans) or a vacuum pump setup.

Also I have 850cc injectors in my car and theyre at roughly 70% duty cycle so your 95s will probably be fine, as long as you can get them to idle.
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
No, oil level is unchanged. It will be more sensitive to overfilling because the crank throw is longer. You will need some sort of improved PCV system, the stock venting will not keep up with a 4.125 stroke and it will pressurize the bottom end/push oil. I recommend either -10 vents from each valve cover to a catch can (or cans) or a vacuum pump setup.
I'll probably do the vacuum pump but I need to do more research on the pros and cons on both setups. Cool I'll stick with the 95's then. My tuner said he can get them to idle and tune for them no problem. Thanks for the info.
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One last bit of advice is figure out a better exhaust setup. You will lose a no-**** 50rwhp with a 3" catted Y pipe vs an X-pipe and duals or a 4" Y.
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One last bit of advice is figure out a better exhaust setup. You will lose a no-**** 50rwhp with a 3" catted Y pipe vs an X-pipe and duals or a 4" Y.
Does anyone sell a 4" y pipe? The only thing I could find close was a 3.5" to 4" y pipe which would mate fine with the Kooks with 2" primaries and 3.5" header collector that I was looking at. True duals would probably be better though.
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Flowmaster makes a merge, mufflex makes a y pipe with the flowmaster merge to fit standard LS1 type headers. I've seen a few cars with this setup and its pretty effective for as simple as it is.

http://www.mufflex-performance.com/9...ad-y-pipe.html
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
Flowmaster makes a merge, mufflex makes a y pipe with the flowmaster merge to fit standard LS1 type headers. I've seen a few cars with this setup and its pretty effective for as simple as it is.

http://www.mufflex-performance.com/9...ad-y-pipe.html
Kooks makes pretty much the same thing as well. That is what I was going to get or the mufflex one matched with the mufflex catback.
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I think ARH will make their Y with a 4" merge if you ask as well.

True duals would be the optimal way to go.

Mast makes a 4.125 clearance stroker windage tray for 4th gen F-bodies, it is the one that isn't full length.

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A question to those using E85 already, I am curious do you have to upgrade the fuel lines as well with PTFE braided stainless steel lines? I was eventually going to do this anyways but I want to know if it is absolutely required or not.
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Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6
A question to those using E85 already, I am curious do you have to upgrade the fuel lines as well with PTFE braided stainless steel lines? I was eventually going to do this anyways but I want to know if it is absolutely required or not.
I've seen where some do and where some don't, but almost all were on FI builds.
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I've seen where some do and where some don't, but almost all were on FI builds.
Hmm, well that doesn't help lol. I may upgrade it if I have enough funds left or if I start smelling fuel or something unless someone who has been running on E85 chimes in and has a reason as to why it is a must. This car won't be driven much per year so I think it could wait a bit to upgrade the lines if need be.

Btw I ordered my ARP main cap studs, after those are in all that I am waiting for are my Pistons to be made by Wiseco and arrive here and then off to the engine shop it all goes. I still need to find a respectable engine builder in VA no further than Roanoke from Northern VA otherwise I'll just drive down to Tick Performance and drop it all off. VA Speed won't do shortblocks only longblocks but I don't need them to do a longblock so they are off the list.

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If Tick isn't too far of a drive, I'd take it to them. They are one of the few shops I'd trust.
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5.5 hours...lol but worth it probably since they have a good reputation and most likely won't "lose" my stuff or do the assembly improperly.
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I haven't seen one bad thing posted about Tick; just lots of happy customers who swear by them.
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I'll probably go with them then.
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Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6
A question to those using E85 already, I am curious do you have to upgrade the fuel lines as well with PTFE braided stainless steel lines? I was eventually going to do this anyways but I want to know if it is absolutely required or not.
I went with teflon lined hoses instead of rubber because frankly I get tired of the smell of E-85 (I take my car on cruises and drive it 2 hours to the closest strip).

PTFE isn't "necessary" but for the slightly added cost (fittings are a little extra too), there are multiple benefits.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
I haven't seen one bad thing posted about Tick; just lots of happy customers who swear by them.
I thoroughly enjoy doing business with them, and they are extremely helpful. Great business. I hope they are fairing well in the Ice Storm. Haha.


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