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Old 02-12-2005, 11:21 AM
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I need to build a new bottom end, and instead of a 346 I've been looking at some alternatives, and wondering why there are not any more iron block 370s? It'd be no more expensive than a forged 346, but should be capable of producing signifigantly more power/torque due to the much larger bore (4.030 -vs- 3.905), kinda like the old MTI "All-Bore" motors that were popular a couple years ago. 500/480 would be pretty easily doable with a good set heads (S3 TEA/AFRs, a big cam (244/248 or similar), 11:1 compression and good exhaust, right? What am I missing here? Why NOT do this, what is the drawback involved? Anyone running a similar motor? Just thinking out loud.

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Larger bore
Stronger block for NOS
Cheaper/easier to machine

Cons:
110lbs of added weight
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Got one right here. Its a customer car we built, C5 Vette. Haven't done the final tune on it, have to finish breaking it in. Should have numbers for you this time next week. Its 11.1:1 cr, 244/248 610/615 114 lsa, Stg III heads. Built with nitrous in mind. I'll let you know.
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Besides the weight there is no other draw backs. In theory it should make more power, they are more stable compared to the aluminums.
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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
I need to build a new bottom end, and instead of a 346 I've been looking at some alternatives, and wondering why there are not any more iron block 370s? It'd be no more expensive than a forged 346, but should be capable of producing signifigantly more power/torque due to the much larger bore (4.030 -vs- 3.905), kinda like the old MTI "All-Bore" motors that were popular a couple years ago. 500/480 would be pretty easily doable with a good set heads (S3 TEA/AFRs, a big cam (244/248 or similar), 11:1 compression and good exhaust, right? What am I missing here? Why NOT do this, what is the drawback involved? Anyone running a similar motor? Just thinking out loud.

Pros:
Larger bore
Stronger block for NOS
Cheaper/easier to machine

Cons:
110lbs of added weight
Been there, done that! You're right Spanky that its a good combo if you don't want the cubes and have a good crank or just want to save some money. The 408 is nicer but we also do a 3.900 steel crank deal for some people too when they want even more piston top and a better crank too. If you have a good crank though there are some good combos with pistons and rods for NA or power adders and that bore. I don't even think the iron block weighs 110 more? I am almost sure its less than 80 but I will measure them again later this week.
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It is 80lbs more than the LS1. How do i know this i have a 370 in my car. It has 400miles on it right now. It was built for boost. So i have 9.1 CR. The damn thing makes *** load of TQ.

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Originally Posted by PHANTA-Z
Got one right here. Its a customer car we built, C5 Vette. Haven't done the final tune on it, have to finish breaking it in. Should have numbers for you this time next week. Its 11.1:1 cr, 244/248 610/615 114 lsa, Stg III heads. Built with nitrous in mind. I'll let you know.
if this is who I think it is, the motor is one we built.
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iron block is 92 lbs
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I've been running a 370 for almost two years now. I've put over 18,000 miles on it. Even through an automatic transmission and a loose converter it makes great power. If there are any drawbacks I haven't found them.
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Ummm Gold Z arent you running that G5 cam. How in the hell are making 638rwhp with that cam. I could have swarn you had an ls1 in your car. You just put in that G5 a couple of mouths ago. Am i missing something
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I'm running a G5-X2 cam...........a lot stouter....
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Woops i was thinking of GoldLS1
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Originally Posted by Demon SS
if this is who I think it is, the motor is one we built.
It is. Tell Brad we got everything worked out, I will be driving the car this week to break it in, and take it to Durham for the finish tune late this week. Motor runs like a top. Even keeping it under 4k rpm, you can tell its got power. I'll give you guys a call and let you know what kind of power it makes.

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