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Old 07-09-2005, 09:21 PM
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I have been toying with the idea of throwing a LS6 cam in my 99 Ws6. I see the deals on LS6 cams are pretty good most are about $125. Questions anyone here do this? I trying to get an idea how much more power I will be making. Now I have Lid and Borla catback. I figure now I should be int he 315 RWHP range. With the cam I would hope to see about 340 or so at the wheels. Then when I would get more cash i would probably get headers, LS6 intake and a pulley. with that setup I would hope to see a total of 380 at the wheels. Sorry little off topic there...back on anyone ever put in a LS6 w/o headers first? If I would do the cam first would I feel a big gain?
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I would just take the usual route and do headers first. There are plenty of other cams that will make more power than the LS6 and still retain good drivability.

The only reason to run a cam like the LS6 is valvespring life. The more aggressive cams will require spring changes every 20k miles or so. If you are willing to change springs every year or two (only takes an afternoon) I'd go that route.
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I wanted the LS6 cam b/c it would get me decent power, its cheap, and I want it to run like stock. Nice smooth idle and from what I hear I wont have to change my stock springs with the LS6 cam. I would want the LS6 cam first b/c I could get one for $125 and I got a guy to put it in for $300. If I would get the headers I want it owuld be close to $1000 total. And I figured that I would get about the same power gains from the Cam as I would from LT's.
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Don't choose your cam based on price. The only way to get more power after you have bolt-ons and a cam is to get ported heads ($$$) or swap to a larger cam.

If you don't ever want to swap springs again the LS6 cam isn't a bad choice. But as I said, if you can deal with a spring swap every 20k miles or so you can get a good amount more power and equal drivability out of something different. Say a 224, for example.
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Originally Posted by bics56
I wanted the LS6 cam b/c it would get me decent power, its cheap, and I want it to run like stock. Nice smooth idle and from what I hear I wont have to change my stock springs with the LS6 cam. I would want the LS6 cam first b/c I could get one for $125 and I got a guy to put it in for $300. If I would get the headers I want it owuld be close to $1000 total. And I figured that I would get about the same power gains from the Cam as I would from LT's.
You do have to change springs for a LS6 cam, you have to get LS6 springs and you have to get longer p-rods for proper preload
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I saw you can get the springs for around $70, how much are the p-rods going for?...Anyone here run a LS6 cam w/o headers and if so how dous it run?
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The LS6 cam is a waste of time and money.. Go with an adter market performance cam.

The gains will not be worth the time and/or money you invested.

JMHO
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For a stealth cam the Z06 is decent option. In my case '02 LS6 cam -> Tr224 with no other changes was worth ~2 mph trap.
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Originally Posted by pekkaz
In my case '02 LS6 cam -> Tr224 with no other changes was worth ~2 mph trap.
This is why I suggest something different. You can make a low-mid 220's duration cam drive perfectly and make more power. Chances are that with dyno tune he would have picked up another 10 rwhp (one more mhp). Shoud also be able to drop 0.2-0.3.
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If you put the LS6 cam in I dont think you will notice a difference.

Yor car is a 1999, the LS1 intake is a restriction, I have a 2002 TA, it came with LS6 intake. Also you DO need to change your springs to LS6 springs or some comp 918. The heads will need a good port job,and you could use some headers.


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QUOTE: I saw you can get the springs for around $70, how much are the p-rods going for?...Anyone here run a LS6 cam w/o headers and if so how dous it run?

SDPC has 04 LS6 springs for $52 Yes......thats for 16 of them.
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I have the setup your asking about but I had headers and all the bolt ons inc LS6 intake and full lenth headers. I made 382rwhp and 371rwtq and ran 11.91@116mph and 7.69@93mph thats with 1.71 60ft on BFg drs but Im geting ready to put new cam in car. Hope this helps if you have any ?? pm me and I will try to help you. People say you wont see a difference but I LOVE mine and haveing hard time of straying from it have out ran a lot of big cam cars but thats me. I have a f13 going in this week and haveing it tuned this Friday.
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I have the setup your asking about but I had headers and all the bolt ons inc LS6 intake and full lenth headers. I made 382rwhp and 371rwtq and ran 11.91@116mph and 7.69@93mph thats with 1.71 60ft on BFg drs but Im geting ready to put new cam in car. Hope this helps if you have any ?? pm me and I will try to help you. People say you wont see a difference but I LOVE mine and haveing hard time of straying from it have out ran a lot of big cam cars but thats me. I have a f13 going in this week and haveing it tuned this Friday.
Thats me as well, I love mine and i've outrun my share to bigger cammed cars.. but I too will go bigger.. its just one of those things..

I don't have any dyno numbers with this cam, but it has run 110.22 mph at 5800 ft DA on DR's .. thats around 117 at a sea level track, and my car is untuned.. just the limiter has been moved. People ask me if it has a bottle on it alot at the track..lol
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Times in sig with 02 LS6 cam, LS1 intake, no u/d pulley, bad O2's causing crazy tuning problems. Good cam for the price.
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I have the setup your asking about but I had headers and all the bolt ons inc LS6 intake and full lenth headers. I made 382rwhp and 371rwtq and ran 11.91@116mph and 7.69@93mph thats with 1.71 60ft on BFg drs but Im geting ready to put new cam in car. Hope this helps if you have any ?? pm me and I will try to help you. People say you wont see a difference but I LOVE mine and haveing hard time of straying from it have out ran a lot of big cam cars but thats me. I have a f13 going in this week and haveing it tuned this Friday.

Did you have to change anything else to compliment the cam at all such as p-rods and springs?
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I would just take the usual route and do headers first. There are plenty of other cams that will make more power than the LS6 and still retain good drivability.

The only reason to run a cam like the LS6 is valvespring life. The more aggressive cams will require spring changes every 20k miles or so. If you are willing to change springs every year or two (only takes an afternoon) I'd go that route.
Change the valve springs every 20K?? I was thinking of going with a TR224 with 918s. Do you guys think I will have to swap the springs that often?
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Well I have 918 and they have 30000 miles on them and have recently put the LS6 heads on it and gained 17hp and 14tq and I have been working on it all day today changing the cam out for the F13 on 112+2 and I amd dynoing it Friday. As far as the push rods go I ran both the 7.40 and 7.45 and the car ran and dynoed better with the 7.40.
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Originally Posted by thunderdan74
Change the valve springs every 20K?? I was thinking of going with a TR224 with 918s. Do you guys think I will have to swap the springs that often?
Not necessarily. You should pull at least a couple of them at 20k miles just to check. I wouldn't go more than 25k miles myself, just because springs are not too expensive or hard to swap.
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Originally Posted by fastbasser
The LS6 cam is a waste of time and money.. Go with an adter market performance cam.

The gains will not be worth the time and/or money you invested.

JMHO
I guess I'd better take my Z06 cam out then.....

http://home.comcast.net/~grussel396/Camaro_0001.wmv
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Originally Posted by Z28SSMAN
I guess I'd better take my Z06 cam out then.....

http://home.comcast.net/~grussel396/Camaro_0001.wmv

lol...



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