KurtRardin

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I have a 98 M6 and I am looking hard for a cam. I've listened to LS1 sounds.com and read many reviews but im still having a hard time picking out a cam. I've got a VHP Tuner, and I'll have LTs soon. I drive DAILY...extra DAILY. I plan on putting a 9" 4.10 in before the cam. I like the sound of a 114 LSA cam. I dont want to change the cam and not be able to tell it by listening to it. Id still like to feel like its nasty, but not so nasty that it wont idle. What kind might yall suggest, and what kind of MPG can you still expect to get.

The SDPC 220/224 .551/.551 114 s looks okay, but i wonder what if it sounds too stock like. Its suppost to be a little more than an LS6 cam.

Or should i just go with an ZO6 cam or a Hot cam kit?

Thanks

Lithium

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F11 sounds about right for ya.

orangeapeel

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If you want a cam that has some decent performace and is still DD friendly. I would say that the Hotcam kit would be a nice choice. Or you could do the 224/224 112 or 114 option. If you want chop for nostalgia reasons you just need a cam that has good street behavior with a lot of overlap.

I get 28 MPG still on the higway with this cam in sig.

orangeapeel

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But judging by your rear end Iwould say MS3 or F14 and maybe T-Rex with a damn good tune.

Lithium

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Yeah I passed over that part...

May want to step it up to something well huge lol. With a decent tune people have gotton the MS3 to drive like stock.

Silverhawk_02TA

From what you're saying I'd recommend something in the 230 range as far as duration goes. An F13 or a Torquer would be a good choice. If you want more lope, get it on a 112 LSA; that'll move the power down lower as well. And really, 4.10's will help to tame a bigger cam. Like Lithium says, a good tune is the key to making a big cam daily driver friendly. I drive my car about 100 miles a day, and it drives just like stock (well, without the lope and all the extra power that is ).

orangeapeel

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If you are looking for lope...find a cam that has lots of overlap....you can have a 115 hit harder than a 108. LSA will move your power range to low, mid or high. OVERLAP will determine lope.

ronan

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check out the cam in my sig, 395/375 untuned through an 80k mile short block is pretty good. 232/236 .576/.578 on a 113

oodahss

go with a MS3 i have one and Jason at Texas Speed did the tuning and it drives almost identical to stock.......except for the extra rpms and gobs of extra power. by the way the MS3s sound great!

ronan

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i forgot about the MS3, i've seen some great numbers at the track with that particular cam. what are the specs on it?

PREDATOR-Z

Guys read what the guy's setup is before just pimping big cams.
He says he has VHP tuner.
For your info the rev limiter with that tuner is only raised 300 rpm above stock.
So you have to keep in mind that factor and the perimeters that tuner can tune.

I would say TR224 112 will be your best bet unless you pick one of the VINCI/Crane grinds.

Predator

That's the best cam even with 4.10s (like he plans)? I hope you're right.

PREDATOR-Z

4:10's just get you in the powerband quicker, I do not see what you're trying to say?
That cam will carry till 6400-6500 nicely. Lopes. super street trq, no bucking, surging and such, with superb under curve power.

FYI, I ran stock cam with 3:73's and 3500 stall and got .7 quicker times.

All the big cams mentioned will have to rev to 6600+ and that is beyond his VHP tuner parameters.

KurtRardin

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Thanks everyone SO MUCH! I had no idea you could still get 28MPG with a cam. I could still get 30 in my old LT1 M6 with most bolt ons and 4.10s. So, im going to check out the TSP Torquer, MS3, and the TR 224 12. Will these all work within my tuners rev limiter? I really like the way the torquer sounds! Is there any where else that i can hear cams besides on VHPs website, and ls1 sounds?

Predator

Sounds good to me. I was just asking since I'll have 4.10s with the 224/224 112 cam.

PREDATOR-Z

No offence Kurt, but if you're buying a cam by the way it sounds, I do not know what to say.
You buy a cam for its power range. Sound will be determined by your exhaust.
I have a Torquer V2 and with ORY it is mean as hell, put cats on and you would think it is a puss.
The TR 224 112 is the only cam you mentionned that fits your tuner parameters (I have that tuner for my vette, I know!).

KurtRardin

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Is it bad to know what it sounds like in advance? I've had cams before and im a little thrown off because in my '68 BB Pontiac i had a .244/.244 .490/.510 110 LSA. And it didnt sound nearly as nasty as these LS1 cams. The TR224 sounds bigger than that old pontiac cam. I know i know, two different worlds, but when i first started looking into ls1 cams I listened to a sample with a cam and said "damn!" Maybe i worded it wrong in my original post, but i am actually asking what my best streetable cam is. I knew that you guys would throw several at me, and then i would go back and highlight them (i have a HUGE list here that i've been keeping) and check them out in more detail. Power range is important, as was mentioned about my tuner.
The 224 cams are perfect because for cam selection #3 in the tuner its specifically for a 224/224 112 to 116.

I've got it narrowed down to the TR224, and the TSP 224R or TSP 224/XE.
The TR is 224/224 563/563 112
TSP 224R 224/224 581/581 114
TSP 224XE 224/224 566/566 114

From here...which one? I know with TSP you can change LSA too. Between the 2 TSPs they work at 1400-6400. Which LSA 114 or 112? the 112 will be better at lower RPMS, right? But wont it idle a little worse? Thanks

PREDATOR-Z

Still TR 224 112.
You're M6, you'll be able to tune your idle by enlarging your TB hole and increasing idle speed.
The 112 will make more power under the curve (that is what you want.)
The TR lobes are in between XE and XE-R, kinda best of both worlds, proven over and over again.
It will also lope more.
IMO budget for a wideband guage, that will make your tuning more accurate instead of guessing all the time and you can see the results live.

SouthFL.02.SS

Doesn't Vinci have tech support for its VHP programmer to match his Vinci/Crane Cam grinds? If so, there's your route, as mentioned already by Predator-Z.

orangeapeel

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I am thinking this is your best option really.
1. You can tune it with little effort.
2. Predator is right about the lope and the proven gains.
3. You wont be dissapointed. And it will probably sound better than your buddies car.
LS1 sounds will give you an idea of the inconsistencies of the idle. You really would have to hear it in person to know for sure what it will "sound" like.