Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

vinci cams

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-05-2006, 03:33 PM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
GuesDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St. Peters
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default vinci cams

Is anyone running a vinci high performance cam shaft? Was wondering how you liked it and what numbers you were running at the wheels
Old 02-05-2006, 04:23 PM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
SVThis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lee County, VA
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

id like to know also....but i dont care abouit RWHP...i more worried about ET's 1/8th mile expecially
Old 02-05-2006, 04:34 PM
  #3  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
vettenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Little Rhody
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Can't answer SVThis because I don't track the car, but I am running the Boss II with 1.8's and have 370 rwhp.
Old 02-05-2006, 04:47 PM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (18)
 
kazfan30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hattiesburg, Mississippi
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Im about to order the "XXX" cam from them in the next couple of weeks and ill try to let you know some numbers. I decided on them because of some cars that i have seen run the cams. They are very well known for cams that produce awesome power under the curve, in other words the TQ numbers are very parallel and linear to the HP numbers. Dont be fooled by the relatively small profiles they offer, they are healthy cams that give big cam cars hell (t-rex, Magic sticks, etc..)especially stock headed cars. I have spoken with them and discussed alot tech and i just happen to agree with their theories. Big cams are nice and do great with big flowing heads, make big dyno numbers and etc...but arent always practical for daily drivers and lots of street use. Its just my OPINION and by all means its your car, but i like to have power right when i mash the pedal not have to tip in it and wait till higher RPMs to pull. Good luck on your decision, and dont let big dyno numbers let you pick your cam.
Old 02-08-2006, 08:44 PM
  #5  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
mrr23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: orlando, fl
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i put the 062 cam in the wife's car 210/218 .551/.551 112 LSA picked up 40 rwtq and 20 rwhp over the stock cam. even the wife went, it seems to accelerate quicker.
Old 02-08-2006, 10:27 PM
  #6  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Okie5.3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i'm running the same cam as mrr23 in my truck. before the LT's, CAI, and 1.8's it put down 290rwhp fat as a pig at 11:1.
Old 02-09-2006, 04:10 AM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
SVThis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lee County, VA
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what about some of their bigger cams...228/231 .600/.600 i think is the biggest the vinci tuner will tune...how much would i expect with full boltons with that cam and tuned with their tuner?
Old 02-09-2006, 06:30 AM
  #8  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
vettenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Little Rhody
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Probably best to call and discuss this cam with Roger.

I am happy with my smaller cam, it runs well and car is very drivable which was important to me because I didn't want something the wife wouldn't drive. Power is good down low and 6th gear highway cruising is excellent delivering over 30 mpg. I also didn't want the car to lope too much, because I feel the C5 Corvette is more of a refine sports car as opposed to a 60's muscle car, but that is just me. I am happy with my choice, and am now moving on to heads. Again, I took a different path then the most popular and went with the Dart 205 heads. I wanted to small ports and the flow numbers looked good for the out of box price. I don't want to stray too far off topic, but the point I am trying to make is each component I have selected has been to work well with the ones already on the car. The only difference will be when I put on the Darts, I will move from 1.8 rockers to 1.7 rockers due to the over the nose spring feedback forces to the lifters and I don't want to run the springs that came with the Dart heads too close to the acceptable lift limit.
Old 02-09-2006, 01:47 PM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Ragtop 99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bethesda, MD
Posts: 9,491
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I like some of the small duration tight LSA cams. Does anyone have the duration at .200 for some of their cams like the 062?
Old 02-09-2006, 11:42 PM
  #10  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Okie5.3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
I like some of the small duration tight LSA cams. Does anyone have the duration at .200 for some of their cams like the 062?



-----.050”------Adv------.200-----104*--114*-------Lift

HR-210/3241-272-------129-----.052--.029-------.551

HR-218/3241 280-------134-----.065--.038-------.551




















Old 02-10-2006, 06:26 AM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
 
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: BFE
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Yeah, the Crane/Vinci under the curve power speeks for itself. I incorporated some of their VE's into my custom Vette cam and it is working real well.
So far with no other mod beside tuning with the Vinci handheld, my 210/224 cam put out 27 rwhp and 32 rwtq over the stock cam.
All else is stock (even the air filter).
I will do a write up as soon as the whole project is finished.
Old 02-10-2006, 03:02 PM
  #12  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Ragtop 99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bethesda, MD
Posts: 9,491
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

What am I missing? Comparing the Vinci lobes to Comp XE for a given duration at .05:

Advertised duration is shorter for the Comp XE
Comp XE's duration at .200 is equal or greater than the vinci.

It seems like the comp XE lobes are more aggresive.

I'm not sure how to compare the the TDC tappet lifts, so I don't know if there is an advantage to one lobe or the other.

Like predator Z said, I like some Vinci's ideas about short duration tight LSA cams, I just thought they were using very fast ramps.
Old 02-10-2006, 03:27 PM
  #13  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
vettenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Little Rhody
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

I don't think they are using very fast ramps, at least not according to my calcs. The cams are also compatible with their accererated lifters. But, the cams (at least mine) is quiet and hopefully not too hard on the valve train.
Old 02-10-2006, 06:35 PM
  #14  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
mrr23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: orlando, fl
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
What am I missing? Comparing the Vinci lobes to Comp XE for a given duration at .05:

Advertised duration is shorter for the Comp XE
Comp XE's duration at .200 is equal or greater than the vinci.

It seems like the comp XE lobes are more aggresive.

I'm not sure how to compare the the TDC tappet lifts, so I don't know if there is an advantage to one lobe or the other.

Like predator Z said, I like some Vinci's ideas about short duration tight LSA cams, I just thought they were using very fast ramps.
one thing to remember about vinci an crane. their advertised durations are at .004". comp is at .006" makes a difference in what you think would be a fast or slow ramp when comparing the two.

here's some reading about the accelerated lift technology to help you out. http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...RTSPARENT.HTML
Old 02-10-2006, 06:36 PM
  #15  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
mrr23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: orlando, fl
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
I don't think they are using very fast ramps, at least not according to my calcs. The cams are also compatible with their accererated lifters. But, the cams (at least mine) is quiet and hopefully not too hard on the valve train.
accelerated lift rockers not lifters.
Old 02-10-2006, 09:12 PM
  #16  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Ragtop 99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bethesda, MD
Posts: 9,491
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I've tried to find out how many degrees is typical between .004 and .006 since I've seen other cams rated at .004. I've assumed its only a few degrees but haven't stumbled upon anything quantative.
Old 02-11-2006, 03:08 PM
  #17  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
vettenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Little Rhody
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

I am confused on this as well. I have been reading David Vizards book, and he states the standard is to measure 0.004 at the tappet but that some cam manufacturers quote 0.006 at the valve. For a small block Chevy, which I think was the source of the standard, with a 1.5 rocker the two would actually be the same.

Am I missing something?
Old 02-12-2006, 12:43 AM
  #18  
TECH Fanatic
 
4mula's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: cyberspace
Posts: 1,002
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by kazfan30
Im about to order the "XXX" cam from them in the next couple of weeks and ill try to let you know some numbers. I decided on them because of some cars that i have seen run the cams. They are very well known for cams that produce awesome power under the curve, in other words the TQ numbers are very parallel and linear to the HP numbers. Dont be fooled by the relatively small profiles they offer, they are healthy cams that give big cam cars hell (t-rex, Magic sticks, etc..)especially stock headed cars. I have spoken with them and discussed alot tech and i just happen to agree with their theories. Big cams are nice and do great with big flowing heads, make big dyno numbers and etc...but arent always practical for daily drivers and lots of street use. Its just my OPINION and by all means its your car, but i like to have power right when i mash the pedal not have to tip in it and wait till higher RPMs to pull. Good luck on your decision, and dont let big dyno numbers let you pick your cam.
i have to disagree with you about how they will give bigger cam cars hell.
take two likewise modded ls1 cars both with the same size converter and the car with a bigger cam is gonna eat up the vinnci.
if you want great power threwout the powerband, the 224/224 cam generally cant be beat.
Old 02-12-2006, 10:37 AM
  #19  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
algws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: El Paso
Posts: 1,139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

what kind of numbers are the vinnci cams turning at the track?



Quick Reply: vinci cams



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:08 PM.