spazzyfry123

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Well thanks to a friend, I will now be needing an awesome cam. He took me for a ride in his cammed T/A this weekend and I fell in love. Problem is, I have three cams I can't decide from:

1. 232/234 .595/.598 112 LSA http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=168&catid=44
2. 231/237 .598/.595 112 LSA http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=162&catid=44
3. 233/239 .595/.603 112 LSA http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=169&catid=44

And I will be doing one of Texas Speed's cam packages that will include one of the above cams, just not sure which package. They have a $100 difference, and all I can find in a difference is the springs. What is the difference between the two and what makes each better?

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=174&catid=44

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=175&catid=44

Thanks in advance for some advice!
-Tyler

HeapaShifter

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First the difference between the two packages is just the springs. One comes with 918's and the other with PRC dual's. The PRC dual's would be recommended for high lift and more aggressive cams. I personally would only use the dual springs on cam #3.

I've seen the 231/237 cam in a full-weight stock bottom-end car run high 10's NA in the 1/4. I've ridden in this car. It's impressive.

I've heard that a 232/234 head and cam car lift the front wheels with nitrous. Also a full weight car. I heard this straight from the guy who built the engine.

All three of these cams are faily close in performance and perform well.

spazzyfry123

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Thanks for your input!

I saw there were two different spring setups in each of the packages, just wasn't sure if I was missing anything else. I was leaning more towards the dual spring setup since all of these cams are right there at the border of .600". I think I am going to take #3 out of my choices, since it is over .600 and I'm not sure if I want to go that high (even though it is only a couple thousandths of an inch difference ). So I guess my choices are narrowed down to the first two, and I am leaning more towards the 231/237. To be honest, I am unsure why, but I am leaning that way. So the 918s should be fine for any cam under .600 for daily use?

s346k

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the 918s will work with almost any cam (depending on lobes) up to ~.620 lift if shimmed properly.

white_camaro

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from what I read so far the 231/237 cam puts out about the same peak as the 233/239 but the 233/239 makes a lot more mid-to-high range torque. The 233/239 cam is probably going to be my choice.

RoastEmSS

I LOVE my Torquer, should have dyno numbers this week

dnm12

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i went dual springs for added insurance

DocEwww

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Why not spring for the MS4 w/ the PRC spring package? If I didnt run TTP's cams I'd have a MS4 in my car.

spazzyfry123

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I just personally think that is too much cam for me. I will still be running factory gears for a while. So unless clearance is not an issue with factory heads and I would be okay driving on the 3.23's or whatever they are...then maybe so!

EDIT: Any idea what kind of lift the MS4 has? It doesn't say on TSP's website.

z28misfit

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I heard the lift is around .649, sounds a bit high to me but who am I too say.

marv

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I'm running #3 and you can see my other mods and numbers in my sig. Lost some down low, but the mid to top end hit is worth it.

Put down 430 rwhp on a ~94 degree day with high humidity (read Mid-Alabama in June). Car probably has a few more in it, but I'm happy with what I got.

I drive it probably 3-4 days a week, no problems what so ever in heavy/slow traffic.
Still running 3:42's in back as well.

I went with the PRC duals obviously since I was going a tad over .600 lift. Everything I've read/heard says the 918s are good up to .600.

Couldn't be happier with what I have. I'll probably go bigger eventually with FI, but for right now it's what I wanted.

marv

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Don't forget to figure in the need for hardened pushrods, timing chain assembly and LS6 oil pump (if higher mileage).

Also will want to give the motor a bit more "warm-up" time before hammering on it with those stiffer springs.

I've got a clip of a 233/239 in a 5.3 I can send you if you're interested.

spazzyfry123

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NAh, I am going to be going with the kit they offer that includes the springs, cam, and hardened pushrods. And I don't see any need in getting the oil pump with under 16K miles on my '99. And that sound clip would be great! You can PM it to me, post it up here, e-mail it to me, whatever. spazzyfry123@yahoo.com
Thanks,
-Tyler

monicaz28

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The lift is .649/.610... Mine came in as .651/.610, which is awesome. This cam goes just fine on stock heads, don't let that be what stops you.
What mods do you have on the car right now? That will be the deciding factor on what will work best on your car. Gotta remember, it's all about your combo.

spazzyfry123

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Well as of right now, just long-tubes, off-road X pipe, and Dynomax Bullets dumped. Centerforce Dual Friction clutch will come before the cam, along with a lid. And that is really all I plan on doing besides maybe a few more bolt-ons.

And man, that sure is a lot of lift! Since this car is my daily driver, I see myself replacing springs quite often You wouldn't happen to have any sound clips of it would you...?

Fratsit

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Try this:

http://www.texas-speed.com/ms4_0001.wmv





R/

Frat

marv

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Hey man, I sent you that sound clip. Enjoy!

Dave D

Hey is there any difference in performance or power band when it comes to the LSA?? I noticed you can order whichever LSA you want. Thanks