chrismcdaniel

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just curious if anyone has been following the development of the Trickflow heads and compairing them to the Darts, ETP's and AFR's.
I have seen flow sheets on the trick flow 225 heads flowed on a 4.030 bore flowing between 340 and 350 at .600 .. how would you guys rate them? I have spoke with several of the vendors today and the general opinion is that the Trick flow heads will out perform the ETP, AFR, and Ported Darts...


what do you think? Please post why you made the choice you made. i want to try and weed out the brand/company loyalty bullshit and get to the real meat and potatoes

skipperbisket

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yo chris, you WTB a forged 346 built by Reher & Morrison? nitrous rings, 1/2" studs etcetcetcetcetcetc

chrismcdaniel

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Actually, i think i have found my new motor. I guess i should remove my sig stuff. But thanks for the offer, was really looking for a top of the line 408, and i think i may have found it.

chrismcdaniel

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ttt...

chrismcdaniel

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seeing the ETP's getting votes, but no one is saying why. i was going to go with the ETP's until today when i talked to W2W and LME and Kurt from W2W and Bryan from LME BOTH told me that even though they both sale the ETP's, the trickflows would out flow them and out perform them. Has nobody else heard this?

2c5s

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What intake do you plan to run?

Patrick G

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Advertised flow numbers are one thing, actual track and dyno numbers are another. Look in the 1/4 mile section for the top dogs and look what they're running. Same for the dyno section. In all fairness, the newer heads will have fewer results, but I suggest looking for the heads that CONSISTENTLY lay down the solid numbers.

viewsonic

Head are just one slice of a big pie...

I think it would be very hard to measure the performance of a head by just looking at a variety of VERY different cars running down the track with different drivers and in different conditions.

AFR heads may be in the top a lot... But does that mean they are the best? Or does that mean the are a nice high priced head and people who are building pristine motors are using pristine heads? AFR's have been very popular in the past. But it is looking like ETP is the new Top Dog in town.

Few reasons for you to get ET heads over AFR's.

- 11* Heads
- No need to mill as they have different size combustion chambers for your application.
- They flow awesome and are prefered by Jeremy Formato


Not saying AFR's are bad at all... I was thinking about buying a set.

Just think ETP has a little more to offer.

eamador11

then this is not the way to do it. Im an AFR fan so I doubt Id vote for the others.

Do some research on your own.

JZ'sTA

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I voted ETP but personially would have hit the none of the above botton if there was one.
I have been a ETP dealer for some time now and have been there since day one of the new casting stuff.
If you dont have a intake manifold or heads yet and want the best package then your choices above dont include my choice.
As we all know the Fast manifold will hold back ever set of heads listed above.
The 350cfm head will be lucky to flow 300 with a 90mm intake.
Therefore I personially would suggest you run a set of ETP LS7 4" bore heads and buy a LS7 intake manifold, and LS7 rockers to go with it.
The heads are more expensize but the intake is cheep enough to make up for the difference.
Now you have a 245cc LS7 style head made to go on a 4" bore just like the other options you listed. The head flows better then every head listed and you get to use a LS7 manifold that flows about 30% better then a fast manifold. So now you have a head and intake combo that should flow around 330 which is way better then what you can do with any other option.
It is really a killer combo that isn't to hard to setup.
If you need any help let me know and I will gladly explain everything to you and how it works.
Or just ask around on here and a few guys should beable to help.

chrismcdaniel

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The top of my motor will be a trick flow heads which flow 340-350 cfm at .600, Edelbrock Victor Jr. Intake Port matched to the heads as well as Internally ported , and a cam designed to support that application. This will out perform A Ported 90 Fast/ ETP set up..

that should stir something up....

Blue Meanie

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I will have dyno results on my Trick Flows on a stock bottom end today. Flow numbers were very nice, especially mid lift. I am expecting good things today! I'll post my results later.

Beast96Z

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I'm assuming these are the TEA trick flows, not the 225cc normal trick flows that everyone can buy at summit. You should note that that is a TEA port, not a trick flow. Just a trick flow casting. If Kurt reccomends it over the ETP, then I'd probablly do it to, but I would not buy the TEA's based off of their flow numbers. I did that once, then I sold them. The TEA's have always been consistant performers, but I don't think you'll break any records if that's what your looking for.

Brian Tooley Racing

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Ouch.....Jason, just so we can set the record straight, since your heads were done a few years ago we have made the following changes.

New owner
New location
2 new CNC's that are superior to the one we had
New Serdi seat and guide machine
New, more experienced personnel
and of course....a lot of new other stuff, all of which has combined to make the TEA/TFS product very hard to beat, especially when you consider delivery time, of just a few days, as compared to a few months for others.

Summit/TFS/TEA offers 2 different heads for LSx engines, since we do all of the CNC porting for TFS, then everything you can buy from Summit, TFS or TEA is all the same head. Both are 13.5 degree valve angle heads.

The first is a LS1, 3.90 bore, 215cc intake port, 64cc chamber head that in independent testing has outpowered all comers, including a ET 215 head, the part number for it is TFS-3060T001-C01.

The second is a "LS2", 4.00 bore, 225cc, 65cc head that promises to be a very strong performer, its part number is TFS-3060T001-C02. The only advantage to buying either of these from TEA is we can do additional milling at no extra cost.

The great thing about life is we are all allowed to grow, mature and get better, so I hope you give the new heads a chance to prove their worth.

ApacheDrill

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Your My hero Brian..

Cobraeater

Where are these independent results?

Ed Curtis

Brian Tooley Racing

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Westech in CA, the testing was not completely back to back, just taking stock heads off a particular setup and installing the aftermarket and comparing the difference. Dart were 31 HP, AFR were 40 something, the ET were 52 HP, the TFS were 53 HP.

After this test was performed the TFS heads had a flow improvement and the heads that were sent to Westech were put on another dyno and the latest TFS heads with the flow improvement made another 5 HP. There is supposed to be a back to back test "Ultimate cylinder head test" like was done with the Ford heads, on the LS1 and LS2 heads in the near future, so stay tuned.

jrp

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is that i have in results or as in there are no results.

BlueThunder2

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I am running a set of stage 2.5 TEA 5.3's with a prototype nitrous exhaust port and 40 hrs of competition hand porting from Brian Tooley. They are AWESOME HEADS!!! I am running them, because Mike and Ron from GMMG/Vengeance Racing built my motor and recommended heads from TEA. They called Brian and explained that my car was a weekend driver/race car. The car performs FREAKISHLY on motor and NASTY on the nitrous. Once I get my cage, we will see how close to 10 flat the car can get. I've already gotten kicked off tracks for running low 11's on motor and not having a cage.

Highly Recommend TEA. They are a wonderful shop to deal with, and will make pretty much anything you want.