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Old 02-08-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jmm98LS1
Haven't had mine on the dyno, don't know the peak but should be similar to the graph posted. With the rpm-hating 4l60e, I keep my shift points at 6400rpm. Hopefully this spring I'll be swapping to a t56 and start shifting at 6500-6600.
do you have a bin file for the tune and what times are you running at what mph are you running. i like the idea of running a asa cam, but i dont know if i want to run real high rpms(well 200 over stock isnt bad but thats the limit i want to go)
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
do you have a bin file for the tune and what times are you running at what mph are you running. i like the idea of running a asa cam, but i dont know if i want to run real high rpms(well 200 over stock isnt bad but thats the limit i want to go)
I didn't get my drag radials until after the track closed this year, so no timeslips yet--will get some as soon as Heartland opens back up this spring. My car was almost useless on street tires, so I didn't even attempt the track with them. I have several .hpt files for my car.
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so the stock 806's dont hold the cam back too much? what should the rev limit be set at?

so lets get a list going of the cam swap
1.cam
2.LS6 springs
3.locks
4.hardned pushrods (good measure, not required.)
5.LS2 chain
6.Oil Pump
7.???

anythign else?
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gaskets..

spring compressor

metal rods to hold the lifters up inplace since you are not removing the heads.


i bought a pair of 04 ZO6 springs.. say they will handle .580 lift.. alsmost the same price as the 02+
Old 02-08-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
gaskets..

spring compressor

metal rods to hold the lifters up inplace since you are not removing the heads.


i bought a pair of 04 ZO6 springs.. say they will handle .580 lift.. alsmost the same price as the 02+
how do yu use the metal rods to hold the lifters in place?
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Originally Posted by bww3588
how do yu use the metal rods to hold the lifters in place?
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23

Go there^ and hit CTRL+F to bring up the "Find" thing. Type in "JPR" and hit enter twice. That will tell you what you need to know.
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i dont think youll need new locks, just be careful when taking apart your valvetrain
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What advantages would I see if I put 1.8 rockers on with this cam as opposed to factory rockers?
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Originally Posted by spazzyfry123
What advantages would I see if I put 1.8 rockers on with this cam as opposed to factory rockers?
I would assume to get extra vavle lift. Damn, I wish we could get more info on this cam so I could figure out what heads would work well with it.
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Originally Posted by soulless
I would assume to get extra vavle lift. Damn, I wish we could get more info on this cam so I could figure out what heads would work well with it.
It really does seem like a cool cam, but you're right...There isn't much info on it since hardly anyone is running it.

And I wonder if running some 1.8 rockers would affect the spring life at all. I say that because one of the main reasons I'm getting this cam is the ability to put in a set of LS6 springs and never have to worry about them again. I mean if I could get a little more power (can someone explain to me how I would get more power using 1.8's over the 1.7's or whatever the factory ones are?) using them without sacrificing spring life, then I'm all for it!
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Originally Posted by spazzyfry123
can someone explain to me how I would get more power using 1.8's over the 1.7's or whatever the factory ones are?
Got this off of Crane Cams website.
"The lobe lift of the cam is increased by the ratio of the rocker arm to produce the final amount of valve lift. A cam with a .320" lobe lift using a 1.50:1 ratio rocker arm will have a .480" valve lift (.320" x 1.50 = .480"). If you install rocker arms with an increased ratio of 1.60:1, with the same cam, the lift would increase to .512" (.320" x 1.60 = .512"). The engine reacts to the movement of the valve. It doesn't know how the increased lift was generated. It responds the same way it would as if a slightly larger lift cam had been installed. In fact, since the speed of the valve is increased with the higher rocker arm ratio, the engine thinks it has also gained 2? to 4? of camshaft duration."

I think 1.8 rocker arms would have a slight impact on spring life but I don't think it would be enough to worry about, atleast with the ASA cam.
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Running 1.8 rockers on the ASA would bump you to .555" lift and add a couple degrees to the duration of the cam. Using 1.85 rockers would bump gross lift to .571"....I'd say 1.8 would be the max you'd want to use LS6 springs on the ASA. Any more than that and you're increasing ramp rate and gross lift enough to warrant some periodic valve spring checks. My 2 cents.

There's been a couple threads waaay back about heads to use with the ASA. Can't remember what the consensus was, but I'm going with some cnc'd 243 castings eventually.
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Originally Posted by 68birdls1
i plan on goin with this cam as well! i was set on a big cam only setup, but i didnt want to have to deal with the changing of the valve springs. and besides if your car is going to be mainly a street car then this cam would be perfect
the factory LS1 springs are rated @ .500 lift. You will need to upgrade the spring no matter what.
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Originally Posted by DONAIMIAN
the factory LS1 springs are rated @ .500 lift. You will need to upgrade the spring no matter what.
i think what he was getting at was he wont have to replace the springs as often with the ASA as he would with somthing like the TRex
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where could you buy this cam? Obviously it would be a better choice than a GM hot cam for the LS1?

I'm planning on buying some patriot ported LS6 castings, so with those heads, this cam, some crane valve springs, and some hardened pushrods and possible some crane 1.8 rockers....sounds like a pretty decent setup on a LS1 daily driver or what?

I was originally planning on the Gen III hot cam til I found this thread, and listened to the idle....
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf
where could you buy this cam? Obviously it would be a better choice than a GM hot cam for the LS1?

I'm planning on buying some patriot ported LS6 castings, so with those heads, this cam, some crane valve springs, and some hardened pushrods and possible some crane 1.8 rockers....sounds like a pretty decent setup on a LS1 daily driver or what?

I was originally planning on the Gen III hot cam til I found this thread, and listened to the idle....
sdpc has them.
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sdbc??
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they are a sponsor. here's the link.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/1981...r-Camshaft.htm
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thanks....seems like the setup what I described above would work for me and my goals. Maybe later some kind of boost or spray and have fun
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All right, I understand the rocker ratios now. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Summerwolf
thanks....seems like the setup what I described above would work for me and my goals. Maybe later some kind of boost or spray and have fun
Not really sure if this would be a good cam for boost with all of its overlap. I do think it would do good with some N2O, however.


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