Can you put Forged pistons on stock rods??
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Can you put Forged pistons on stock rods??
Im thinking about upgrading my pistons to some forged diamond pistons with relief cc's in them so when i spray nitrous they are less likely to shatter. Anyways... i was planning on putting these pistons on my stock connecting rods but i stumbled when i read that the stock pistons/pins are pressed on. So i am wondering if its possible to just replace the stock pistons with aftermarket ones but keep the stock connecting rods?????????
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prolly a dumb question...
but id like to kno...is it possible to change out the pistons without pulling the motor? i dont think u can..but i thought id ask to make sure...
but id like to kno...is it possible to change out the pistons without pulling the motor? i dont think u can..but i thought id ask to make sure...
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i plan on putting these pistons on my stock rods, should they just swap out or is there anythign special i have to do for the swap??? pistons http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/4183...pgrade-Kit.htm
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How big of shot are you thinking of running 1fastz? I am curious as to if the block will hold up to around 600whp with forged pistons. I want to add a shot of juice once the project is done, but I should be putting down around 430whp N/A...
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Originally Posted by 7w/aswap
How big of shot are you thinking of running 1fastz? I am curious as to if the block will hold up to around 600whp with forged pistons. I want to add a shot of juice once the project is done, but I should be putting down around 430whp N/A...
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There's no way I would tear down a block just to change pistons. You can get Callies Compstar Rods with the upgraded ARP 2000 bolts for around $500. Eagles are the same price, but you only get the slightly weaker rod bolts, but you can upgrade for $80. Scat rods are like $400, I think but not sure. Change the rods too and then spray whatever you want and not worry about it. Yeah, people say the stock rods are good to 550 or so horsepower, but I would rather be sure if I was gonna spend the money and take the time to tear it all down.
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
prolly a dumb question...
but id like to kno...is it possible to change out the pistons without pulling the motor? i dont think u can..but i thought id ask to make sure...
but id like to kno...is it possible to change out the pistons without pulling the motor? i dont think u can..but i thought id ask to make sure...
Stock rods arent that bad. If you choose to go that route, make sure the piston you get has the .945 pin and not the .927. But I would just have the engine builder buy all the parts anyway.
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Originally Posted by moeZ28
There's no way I would tear down a block just to change pistons. You can get Callies Compstar Rods with the upgraded ARP 2000 bolts for around $500. Eagles are the same price, but you only get the slightly weaker rod bolts, but you can upgrade for $80. Scat rods are like $400, I think but not sure. Change the rods too and then spray whatever you want and not worry about it. Yeah, people say the stock rods are good to 550 or so horsepower, but I would rather be sure if I was gonna spend the money and take the time to tear it all down.
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Originally Posted by santiago
i bought a motor off a guy with a camaro and when i opened it up it had forged -2cc pistons with stock rods?? i bought the motor for $1500 so im happy with it
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There's no reason you couldn't put forged pistons on stock rods. The material they are made out of, or how they are cast/forged has nothing to do with the dimensions.
I'm also behind the idea that there is no sense in it though. For another $400-500 you have peace of mind that your motor can safely handle well over 700rwhp. There are people over 1000rwhp on the stock crank, but they are few.
When I go through my motor (more than likely this winter), if I decide I'm going the N2O route next year, I'll be going with some Wiseco/JE flat-tops and Compstar rods. If I decide I'm going boost, then I'll still get the Compstars but obviously some form of a dished piston.
I'm also behind the idea that there is no sense in it though. For another $400-500 you have peace of mind that your motor can safely handle well over 700rwhp. There are people over 1000rwhp on the stock crank, but they are few.
When I go through my motor (more than likely this winter), if I decide I'm going the N2O route next year, I'll be going with some Wiseco/JE flat-tops and Compstar rods. If I decide I'm going boost, then I'll still get the Compstars but obviously some form of a dished piston.
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[QUOTE=DuronClocker]There's no reason you couldn't put forged pistons on stock rods. The material they are made out of, or how they are cast/forged has nothing to do with the dimensions.
I'm also behind the idea that there is no sense in it though. For another $400-500 you have peace of mind that your motor can safely handle well over 700rwhp. QUOTE]
I dont plan on making that much power. Not even 500rwhp. I just dont want my pistons to shatter when if i do decide to spray. But other than that, i am with you. If someone is making 700rwhp then yea, forged rods too.
I'm also behind the idea that there is no sense in it though. For another $400-500 you have peace of mind that your motor can safely handle well over 700rwhp. QUOTE]
I dont plan on making that much power. Not even 500rwhp. I just dont want my pistons to shatter when if i do decide to spray. But other than that, i am with you. If someone is making 700rwhp then yea, forged rods too.
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i have a set of diamond 3.905 forged pistons with -2cc reliefs on my stock rod/crank. I did use the arp 2000 rod bolts for some extra insurance since i have 420rwhp and i am going to be spraying a 150-175 shot.
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I have stock rods with ARP's in my motor and I'm not worried about it at 500rwhp through a 9inch. (well 473rwhp on a mustang dyno) When first motor was put in the rods weren't available that are now and the second was an MTI warranty replacement because of a dropped sleeve.
While I'm confident my setup will hold up just fine NA, it is limiting because now I am afraid to run a 100 shot on it because of the rods. So my advice would be to do the forged rods you don't know in the future you may want to play around with more Nitrous
While I'm confident my setup will hold up just fine NA, it is limiting because now I am afraid to run a 100 shot on it because of the rods. So my advice would be to do the forged rods you don't know in the future you may want to play around with more Nitrous
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Originally Posted by 1fastz
Nice!!!! Got lucky!!! is the motor installed? How do you like it if so??? .... So im guessin you can put forged 2cc pistons on stock rods!!!