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Old 06-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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I don't want a wild cam, just something to wake up the car up from idle to 5000 rpm. I usually don't rev to high, it a A4 obviously. I don't want to get a 3000+ converter and drop another $500 bucks. This car is just a weekend toy/ cruiser that never sees the strip. what duration cam is good for my stock converter? not looking to set speed records etc.
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none, spend the money on the converter instead of the cam. Seriously.. the stock converter will not even allow the stock cam to get into the powerband..
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Originally Posted by Joel_SS
none, spend the money on the converter instead of the cam. Seriously.. the stock converter will not even allow the stock cam to get into the powerband..

Stalls make the car a pig to drive, unless you spend the cash... a gm hot cam or 03 zo6 cam would be a good choice.
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Originally Posted by 99NMB
Stalls make the car a pig to drive, unless you spend the cash... a gm hot cam or 03 zo6 cam would be a good choice.
Completely untrue, when properly tuned stalls are hardly noticable and very driveable, most stalled cars though are not tuned at all, and yes they are pigs
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yeah dont listen to 99nmb. stalls arent anyhting bad. they will give you bigger gains that a cam. if you have a good tuner depending on the stall you might not even really notice its there until you floor it
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I honestly think you would like driving your car ALOT better with a stall rather than a cam.
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theres plenty that will work such as the 224/224 and the TR cheater cam. Pretty much any cam with no overlap will work fine on the stock stall
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I don't think the 224 cams would work too well with a stock stall, not to say it couldn't be done, I just really wouldn't recommend it.
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TR220 or TSP220.... on a 112 LSA.... an LS1 with stock converter could handle it... and they can be picked up in the classifieds both here and on performancetrucks.net fairly often... but if you want something to make your car noticeably more responsive and fun to drive... get a converter first, my truck with stock cam and 3200 PI stall was a blast... and then along came the cam...
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My comp 224/224 works okay with the stock converter but i can tell it really would work much better with a stall. Just waiting for a rainy day to install it.
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Any cam will work with the stock converter. The point is that you won't be able to use the engine effectively with the stock converter, compared to a higher stall converter. I say do whatever you can get done first, but be sure you do both.

I'm sure that had you posted this up in the automatic transmission section, a lot of guys would be telling you that you better put a cam in the engine if you go with a converter. The feedback you get to a question like this is very sensitive to the context.
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Originally Posted by Formulated
Any cam will work with the stock converter. The point is that you won't be able to use the engine effectively with the stock converter, compared to a higher stall converter. I say do whatever you can get done first, but be sure you do both.
Actually, if you overcam the **** out of the car, the stock stall won't work. It's too tight for the elevated idle the monster cam will need. You need the looseness of a higher stall to keep the brake pedal from being mashed through the floor.

For the original poster, I'd recommend a Yank SS3200 (very tight), 3.42 gear, and a TSP 224 (based on the XE-R lobes) on a 112 LSA. The overlap is minimal, so when combined with that Stall/gear combo, it'll work very well. The converter doesn't hit as hard as others, so you can run street tires with it, which is a big plus if you aren't looking for a strip car. And the RPM band isn't insane with that cam. (Remember, 6k+ revs kill the auto tranny, even moreso than pure torque, because of the friction/heat).

When tuned, it'll drive like stock and crush a stock A4 from any race - roll or from a dig.
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dont waste your time, get a god damn stall and quit being a bitch
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My Car is not really a pig with the stall, and it is untuned. But it is not the greatest around town to drive daily. The only thing I don't like about a stalled car untuned is when it shifts at low speeds. Its almost as the tranny is stuck between two gears and it falls on its face for a short period of time, like one second, But thats at mild acceleration. If I go wide open it shifts just fine. And it seems when running around the 40 mph zone, it won't lock up. It stays at around 2600 rpm. But If I go past 50 it will drop the rpm's and lock up. But like I said before it is untuned. Once it is tuned by the right guy it will be fine.


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Why would you change your stall but not tune the tranny?

I agree with everyone else: a bigger stall would be WAY better than a small cam on a stock stall.
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Why tune the car when more parts are being added to it? Might as well wait till your pretty much done modding and getting your project together before tuning...




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