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Old 12-18-2008, 05:45 PM
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Default Mast Motorsports announced 12* LS3 style heads for small med and lg bore ls engines!

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/black...linder%20Heads
They will also offer fuel rail kits and rocker arms under their "Black Label" line of products.
They are also offering cam-phaser style camshafts for L92 engines and their M-90 style of controls for both gen III and gen IV engines (including VVT).
Very promising.
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Cool, but they should probably learn how to spell Camaro.
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wonder what the deck thickness is and the prices.
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Originally Posted by drain89
http://www.mastmotorsports.com/black...linder%20Heads
They will also offer fuel rail kits and rocker arms under their "Black Label" line of products.
They are also offering cam-phaser style camshafts for L92 engines and their M-90 style of controls for both gen III and gen IV engines (including VVT).
Very promising.
How much for the 3.9 bore heads, those things have some really good flow numbers on 'em!
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
How much for the 3.9 bore heads, those things have some really good flow numbers on 'em!
Where do you see flow #'s at?
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
How much for the 3.9 bore heads, those things have some really good flow numbers on 'em!
Can the 3.9 LS3 bolt to the LS1 block? I thought they were not compatible?
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Originally Posted by will01
Can the 3.9 LS3 bolt to the LS1 block? I thought they were not compatible?
It bolts to the block no problem, you have to change the intake though to bolt to the heads.
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Originally Posted by dmracing
Where do you see flow #'s at?
In the link, but here I copy and pasted for you, these are for the 3.9 bore head with a 2.055 intake valve and 1.59 exhaust valve:

Flow Data w/ 3.900" Bore Plate
Lift | Intake | Exhaust
.100 | 73 | 57
.200 | 155 | 114
.300 | 228 | 164
.400 | 281 | 204
.500 | 320 | 222
.550 | 333 | 228
.600 | 343 | 232
.650 | 351 | 236
.700 | 355 | 240

I wonder how much of a difference it would make over my tea stg 2.5 5.3 heads, here's the flow chart on mine:


Lift Intake Exhaust
.100" 67.2 57.5
.200" 140.4 110.7
.300" 207.8 168.7
.400" 252 213.2
.500" 290.3 240.8
.550" 304.1 248.7
.600" 317 254.7

Depending on the price I dunno if it'd be worth it.
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Out of curiousity, if you were going to the trouble of building a new head, why not set it up for a LS7 intake? Stock LS3 heads already outflow the intake.
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
How much for the 3.9 bore heads, those things have some really good flow numbers on 'em!
i was just saying that to myself....
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
In the link, but here I copy and pasted for you, these are for the 3.9 bore head with a 2.055 intake valve and 1.59 exhaust valve:

Flow Data w/ 3.900" Bore Plate
Lift | Intake | Exhaust
.100 | 73 | 57
.200 | 155 | 114
.300 | 228 | 164
.400 | 281 | 204
.500 | 320 | 222
.550 | 333 | 228
.600 | 343 | 232
.650 | 351 | 236
.700 | 355 | 240

I wonder how much of a difference it would make over my tea stg 2.5 5.3 heads, here's the flow chart on mine:


Lift Intake Exhaust
.100" 67.2 57.5
.200" 140.4 110.7
.300" 207.8 168.7
.400" 252 213.2
.500" 290.3 240.8
.550" 304.1 248.7
.600" 317 254.7

Depending on the price I dunno if it'd be worth it.
Ported L92's flow better, both int and exh.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Ported L92's flow better, both int and exh.

perhaps so... but thats on a 4 inch bore.... duh!
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Originally Posted by john_sblendorio
Out of curiousity, if you were going to the trouble of building a new head, why not set it up for a LS7 intake? Stock LS3 heads already outflow the intake.
Not if you put a gmpp or other single plane on it, if I got these heads, i'd probably pick up an ETP single plane with the dominator flange for it since I would have to replace my gmpp that's on my cathedral ports right now.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Ported L92's flow better, both int and exh.
And also have 2.16 intake valves and have a chamber setup for over a 4" bore, I couldn't use those heads on my motor with the small 3.9 bore, even though they flow better than my heads, I guarantee you it would slow down.
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will a 2.16 intake valve even clear a 3.90 bore?
even if it physcally fits, is there even a point to have such large valves on a 3.90 bore...if anything, id imagine they would perform poorly compared to a properly valved head for that bore size...
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Originally Posted by SUCK MY SS
will a 2.16 intake valve even clear a 3.90 bore?
even if it physcally fits, is there even a point to have such large valves on a 3.90 bore...if anything, id imagine they would perform poorly compared to a properly valved head for that bore size...

The 3.9 version uses a 2.055" intake valve.
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real question is....

on the small bore head.... what size intake port????
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Originally Posted by Mr.MartyStone
The 3.9 version uses a 2.055" intake valve.
so it uses a stock ls1 valve seat?
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very interesting thread-



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