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Old 08-04-2009, 05:05 PM
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I am looking for a cam that will make the best power with my stock stall in my 05 GTO. My setup will include an LQ4 shortblock, GTP stage 2 heads milled to give me 11.03:1 compression, Edelbrock Pro-Flo intake, 1 7/8 Kooks LTs, 3" catless exhaust through Magnaflow mufflers, 3.91 rear gears. Please don't tell me that changing the stall would be better or this or that....I KNOW!! I just don't want to do it. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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236/238 .601/.605 113+3 should be about the limit

edit: This cam should be about all you can handle with the stock converter
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Originally Posted by Slowlane
236/238 .601/.605 113+3 should be about the limit

edit: This cam should be about all you can handle with the stock converter
Wow, that's a pretty big cam. Bigger than I was expecting anyone to recommend anyway.
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i say no bigget than 228 on 112 lsa and that still might push through the converter
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Everything mentioned so far is still to big for a stock stall on any auto car. A 228 on a 114 or more lsa maybe...maybe. I'd say no bigger than a 220 on a 114. Look into a custom grind that would suit your need the best since you want to stay stock stall Pat G would give you a great cam spec that would be perfect for that set-up. One question if your going H/C/I anyways why not a stall converter seems kinda of waste to me IMO only. Why not a 2800 converter that would open the doors up to a lot more cams like 224s 228s and the likes and give you a very nice package with the CR you are planning to run and the heads and intake you'd like to use. Your gears suit a bigger duration cam anyways.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Everything mentioned so far is still to big for a stock stall on any auto car. A 228 on a 114 or more lsa maybe...maybe. I'd say no bigger than a 220 on a 114. Look into a custom grind that would suit your need the best since you want to stay stock stall Pat G would give you a great cam spec that would be perfect for that set-up. One question if your going H/C/I anyways why not a stall converter seems kinda of waste to me IMO only. Why not a 2800 converter that would open the doors up to a lot more cams like 224s 228s and the likes and give you a very nice package with the CR you are planning to run and the heads and intake you'd like to use. Your gears suit a bigger duration cam anyways.
Well because I had my exhaust fully welded, headers and all, I can't drop the tranny to swap one in. The only option I have is pulling the motor. WHich isn't a huge deal, but it's enough of a PITA that I don't really want to do it. I may break down and just get a good spec'd cam and get a stall. I just haven't made my decision yet. I am looking for my options right now.
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if you went with anything over a 224 your car would run like a slug off the line.
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I would hold off on the cam until I did the torque converter. that would give you better cam options.
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I would get the sawzall out and weld in some way to remove the exhaust so you can work on that thing. Not much sense in running a cam you don't want just because you dont want to mess with the exhaust to install a converter to make everything work in harmony. JMHO
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224/224 .581/.581 cam or the Lenginfelter GT11 cam.
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Originally Posted by Tuner@Straightline
224/224 .581/.581 cam
Agreed, that's the largest we typically recommend for a stock convertor car as well. Any larger and it wants to push through the brakes and gets too sluggish.
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still i think thats a tad bit much lift for a stock stall... the thunder tr224 on a 112 is about ok for the stock stall.. 224/224 563/563 112
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Originally Posted by daryn c
still i think thats a tad bit much lift for a stock stall... the thunder tr224 on a 112 is about ok for the stock stall.. 224/224 563/563 112
Same driveability between the two, but about 7hp at the crank more from the XER lobes. I'd go .581" any day between the two, stock convertor or not.
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I think a 224 is too big still but it could be made to work. I'd say a 220/220 at around 550/550 on a 114 with LS6 springs that would work great and be cheap. But still I'd go with a good 2800-3200 verter and a 228 or the new 224/227 from TR.
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I'd do the 224/224 .581 on a 114 LSA or even a 115 LSA

Should be fine with a stock TC. stock cubes.
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I ran a 224 cam on my car without a converter with no issues. But when I put the converter my car ran much much better.
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I've been looking into the LPE GT11 cam. I've read some good stuff about it.
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I did the MS4 with the stock converter for 100miles, then to a yank 3600 stall. Liked the aftermarket stall with the cam. Then 100 miles down the road engine went BANG!



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