FIRST WARHAWK BLOCK BUILT and RUN.
Hey Bink, with 1,945 posts, I just realized, I do not want to be like you. Signing off and concentrating on bettering myself. I would rather buy one of these engines than talking about it.
Thanks again. Your selfless sacrifice is noteworthy and should be applauded by all.
Thanks again. Your selfless sacrifice is noteworthy and should be applauded by all.
Good to hear that you have the initial 3 blocks and are doing the deed Merlin. Just as Eric posted, I beleve that there are those in the ranks that expect maximum numbers over night to form validity... but forget the 40+ years of experience to get to where we are by doing the deed of REAL R&D.
On another note...
Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir– prefix and –less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so. But it is however, a word...
On another note...
Originally Posted by V6 Bird
For someone as book smart as you portray yourself, Irregardless is not a word.
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what I really want to know is how far you can take this block out for an NA application.
they previously recommended only 4.125 and this is WAY past that at 4.180 or 4.185 depending on which post you read.
they previously recommended only 4.125 and this is WAY past that at 4.180 or 4.185 depending on which post you read.
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Until we build and sell our own crates and shorts the company line will be "4.125"-comes right from the top. We do not wish to speculate and have a customer come back and say: "You said it was safe and now my motor blew up."
The E/T gang are serious pros and made their own determination it was safe to build to that spec. Because someone did it we can not now say 4.185 is the safe max 'cause the liability will be all ours. Our job has been to design the parts and get them to the marketplace. You talented folks are free to explore new thresholds free of liability.
Our program is coming and we're sure many parameters will change and evolve and we'll tell you about them.
I just wish we could get the stuff correct and OUT.
Until we build and sell our own crates and shorts the company line will be "4.125"-comes right from the top. We do not wish to speculate and have a customer come back and say: "You said it was safe and now my motor blew up."
The E/T gang are serious pros and made their own determination it was safe to build to that spec. Because someone did it we can not now say 4.185 is the safe max 'cause the liability will be all ours. Our job has been to design the parts and get them to the marketplace. You talented folks are free to explore new thresholds free of liability.
Our program is coming and we're sure many parameters will change and evolve and we'll tell you about them.
I just wish we could get the stuff correct and OUT.
Hey guys,
I just got back in town from the PRI show. First thing, I would like to thank World products for letting us get ahold of this block and flog it. It was benificial to us both. Like I said in my other post, this is not a purpose class build. We needed to put together a "race" engine to test our new heads and manifold concepts. The Warhawk block is indeed a well thought out high quality piece. It will be hard for any other manufacturer to top what they have already done. To clarify things. We did not build this engine to compete with any other shop or business out there. Our goals are not 1200 HP. We know for a fact that with time we can exceed 1000 hp with two throttle bodies and maybe get close to 1000 with our single four intake that we are developing to run on this combo. There are a lot of other things being tested on this piece than heads and intakes, we are also testing ignition and fuel management, valvetrain, and oil systems. Thins is an experiment, not engine masters competition. Yes, it has not hit the 2 hp per cube yet as someone mentioned, but it has not come close to peak hp yet and we did break a rocker arm due to it being too short in the intake. Jesel is going to build us a 1.750 pivot length after Christmas, we will get back to testing at that point. I will inform in my other post with any results. This will be good info as the LS based smallblocks evolve. BTW, this is a steel rod engine as well, we are testing the strength of some components as well. This engine is utilizing a compstar crank and rod combo, not a 3000 dollar light weight billet and aluminum rod. Diamond built the pistons for this combo from almost a shelf stock piston.
thanks,
cary
I just got back in town from the PRI show. First thing, I would like to thank World products for letting us get ahold of this block and flog it. It was benificial to us both. Like I said in my other post, this is not a purpose class build. We needed to put together a "race" engine to test our new heads and manifold concepts. The Warhawk block is indeed a well thought out high quality piece. It will be hard for any other manufacturer to top what they have already done. To clarify things. We did not build this engine to compete with any other shop or business out there. Our goals are not 1200 HP. We know for a fact that with time we can exceed 1000 hp with two throttle bodies and maybe get close to 1000 with our single four intake that we are developing to run on this combo. There are a lot of other things being tested on this piece than heads and intakes, we are also testing ignition and fuel management, valvetrain, and oil systems. Thins is an experiment, not engine masters competition. Yes, it has not hit the 2 hp per cube yet as someone mentioned, but it has not come close to peak hp yet and we did break a rocker arm due to it being too short in the intake. Jesel is going to build us a 1.750 pivot length after Christmas, we will get back to testing at that point. I will inform in my other post with any results. This will be good info as the LS based smallblocks evolve. BTW, this is a steel rod engine as well, we are testing the strength of some components as well. This engine is utilizing a compstar crank and rod combo, not a 3000 dollar light weight billet and aluminum rod. Diamond built the pistons for this combo from almost a shelf stock piston.
thanks,
cary
this thread is crazy *****, what are some new ideas that are coming out of your build up/trial by fire? Looks like you guys are trying to do something pretty radical without using or building in a radical way! Too bad some of the rumors weren't true, we could have put that on FOX news!


