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11-04-2008, 04:58 PM
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need headers so confused okay i have a 97 ss that i need a set of headers for... i dont know what to do either long tubes or shortys... i live in new york and the roads arent the best so i dont think i want to do the long tubes cause they sit low... i am also looking to keep the stock y pipe with no modifications to it... the exaust that is on the car is the slp totl if that helps... not looking to spend a stupid amount of money either thanks
11-04-2008, 05:01 PM
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Not sure but I don't think there are many headers out there that bolt up to the stock y-pipe. Maybe some shorties, but idk. Longtubes arent that bad with clearance, ive lived in NY as well with my car with no problems (longtubes)
11-04-2008, 05:06 PM
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Longtubes for sure if you want a great change in horsepower and torque as well as sound. They dont cause many clearance issues as you would think but you will definatley not be able to use the stock y-pipe. Shorty headers will not give you nearly as much power as LT's will
11-04-2008, 06:03 PM
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we do have emissions in ny which is why i need something that will let me pass my inspections... also will long tubes work witha stock k member?... what systems do you guys recomend and what were your power improvements
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11-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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I gained 30rwhp with my hooker LT's and off road Y. Pacesetter's are also good
11-04-2008, 07:20 PM
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IMO i would still not go through the pain of changing headers unless it was a long tube. If you want to have any decent gains you NEED to ditch the stock catted y pipe asap
11-04-2008, 07:37 PM
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aint mac manifolds mid headers?? i heard u cant pass smog with those, get pacesetters i heard they hug the motor and dont sit low like hooker headers do
11-04-2008, 08:33 PM
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Look into a set of these:
http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...0a09542aab6fa2
They have the same 1 3/4" primaries that you see on most longtube headers, emissions hookups, and you won't lose any ground clearance over the stock exhaust.
Contrary to popular belief, the length of the header tubes don't affect the overall power output, but rather what side of the torque peak the majority of the torque in the area under the curve will be stacked.
The longer the primary = the more torque that is stacked below the peak
The shorter the primary = the more torque that is stacked above the peak
Generally speaking, and with all other things being equal, you'll see more low end torque from a set of longtubes, and better midrange torque from a set of midlengths.
http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...0a09542aab6fa2
They have the same 1 3/4" primaries that you see on most longtube headers, emissions hookups, and you won't lose any ground clearance over the stock exhaust.
Contrary to popular belief, the length of the header tubes don't affect the overall power output, but rather what side of the torque peak the majority of the torque in the area under the curve will be stacked.
The longer the primary = the more torque that is stacked below the peak
The shorter the primary = the more torque that is stacked above the peak
Generally speaking, and with all other things being equal, you'll see more low end torque from a set of longtubes, and better midrange torque from a set of midlengths.
11-04-2008, 09:07 PM
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^^^Forgot to mention that since you're an OBDII car, you'll need a Random Tech dual cat y-pipe if you go that route. (RK Sport headers are a clone of AS&M, which is what the y-pipe is advertised for.)
A cheaper alternative would be to just use the single cat y-pipe included with the RK Sport header package and do an OBDI conversion.
A cheaper alternative would be to just use the single cat y-pipe included with the RK Sport header package and do an OBDI conversion.
11-05-2008, 09:46 AM
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i found the pacesetter lts with the y pipe on lmpperformance.com for a decent price they have the egr and air hookups but i think that y pipe eliminates my cats will that throw a code in an obd2 car?
11-05-2008, 10:17 AM
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Look into a set of these:
http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...0a09542aab6fa2
They have the same 1 3/4" primaries that you see on most longtube headers, emissions hookups, and you won't lose any ground clearance over the stock exhaust.
Contrary to popular belief, the length of the header tubes don't affect the overall power output, but rather what side of the torque peak the majority of the torque in the area under the curve will be stacked.
The longer the primary = the more torque that is stacked below the peak
The shorter the primary = the more torque that is stacked above the peak
Generally speaking, and with all other things being equal, you'll see more low end torque from a set of longtubes, and better midrange torque from a set of midlengths.
http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...0a09542aab6fa2
They have the same 1 3/4" primaries that you see on most longtube headers, emissions hookups, and you won't lose any ground clearance over the stock exhaust.
Contrary to popular belief, the length of the header tubes don't affect the overall power output, but rather what side of the torque peak the majority of the torque in the area under the curve will be stacked.
The longer the primary = the more torque that is stacked below the peak
The shorter the primary = the more torque that is stacked above the peak
Generally speaking, and with all other things being equal, you'll see more low end torque from a set of longtubes, and better midrange torque from a set of midlengths.
i am almost 100% positive you have this backwards, i just installed my long tubes and got my exhaust welded up and it feels slower from about idle to 2500rpms but much faster from their on up.
i think long tubes moves your peak torque up and shorties will move it down. mids obviously keep it in the mid section.
11-05-2008, 10:29 AM
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I'm from NY too (not that that has to do anything about this topic), and I have pasesetter LT's and ORY on my Formula. Ground clearance isnt an issue for me. I've had no problems with it. As for emissions goes.. Skrew it. Who needs that stuff anyways?
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11-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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only reason i am asking is cause this is my first obd2 car and i know that if you have a check engine light you automaticaly fail... only reason i want to do them is cause the motor is being pulled out and i know its 10x easier when motor is out