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Old 01-30-2010, 05:54 PM
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Geting a rear and slicks this winter..That should help my turd out..Iv seen a very similar car like mine..Very close Hp/Tq numbers its a Silver SS..6 speed

Started very low 12s like mine (crappy tires 2.2 60s) ...now he has ended up 11.25s..

Now he is a little lighter than me Im sure..but Id love to be 11.40s-11.49

A full second just because it hooked and right gearing!!

Im going with a 28in Slick and a 4:56 gear..

My limiter is set a 7000..that seems a little high for me to leave off of..

So for $250-300 should I jsut get a two step? I dont know much about them..I get how they work as far as cuting a cylinder but do they use a button or is it all of the computer? Teach me about a two step
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many manual guys wire it so that when the clutch is pressed in the 2 step is active and when you release the clutch it is disabled. This also allows for you to bang gears without lifting your foot off the gas.
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Definately go with a 2-step. It made my car much easier to launch and also made it bracket racing consistent. Lingenfelter makes a very nice piece that's very easy to install.
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I dont like 2 steps at all.. They seem more detrimental, its really not that hard to watch your rpms and launch at the same or similar spot every time.

fwiw you shouldnt have to leave off the limiter, 6500 or so should be more than enough.

And the last time at the track I went 11.01, 11.03, 11.05, 1.42, 1.43, 1.44 60's back to back, without a 2 step.
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^^ DTB LS1 your the car I was talking about lol if you didnt know

Now if I set my lauch rpm at say 6500..Can I shift it at 68 or so..or how does that work..
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Now if I set my lauch rpm at say 6500..Can I shift it at 68 or so..or how does that work..[/QUOTE]

YES. your 2-step will be set for just your launch setting and you will still have your normal rev limiter setting. Im also in the market for a 2step and leaning towards the msd 2step.
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i ran a msd 2 step off my msd 6al in my old 96 formula. ran the sidewinder shift **** to engage it. launched at 6k 2 step. without the 2 step it ran 12.40's using the 2 step it ran 12.204's. easy and simple with the shiftknob. after i launched i simply slid my finger off the button. granted it was just a bolt on lt1 so it only 60 footed low 1.6's on a 26 et street
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^^ DTB LS1 your the car I was talking about lol if you didnt know

Now if I set my lauch rpm at say 6500..Can I shift it at 68 or so..or how does that work..
It'll back fire - but otherwise it'll work just fine.

I've got mine hooked to the clutch switch and a momentary switch.

Push in the clutch hit the button and floor it....

The momentary switch eliminates the back fire.
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Originally Posted by 223HAWK
Geting a rear and slicks this winter..That should help my turd out..Iv seen a very similar car like mine..Very close Hp/Tq numbers its a Silver SS..6 speed

Started very low 12s like mine (crappy tires 2.2 60s) ...now he has ended up 11.25s..

Now he is a little lighter than me Im sure..but Id love to be 11.40s-11.49

A full second just because it hooked and right gearing!!

Im going with a 28in Slick and a 4:56 gear..

My limiter is set a 7000..that seems a little high for me to leave off of..

So for $250-300 should I jsut get a two step? I dont know much about them..I get how they work as far as cuting a cylinder but do they use a button or is it all of the computer? Teach me about a two step

Just get yourself a Lingenfelter LNC-002 and install it as the diagrams shows. The best part about it is if you decide to start using Nitrous it has a timing retard function as well.

If your transmission and clutch are stock I would hate to see what it would look like after a 7K launch. If I could make one suggestion it would be a good idea to install a flywheel shield.

As one of the OP stated if you set it at 6K when you push your clutch to the floor and push the go pedal all the way to the floor the engine revs to 6K. When you sidestep the clutch you are leaving at WOT. When you make your shifts leave your go pedal on the floor and when you depress clutch the engine will not rev past 6K even if you where at 6,800 before depressing the clutch.

It is the best way to be consistent as one of the OP stated.

Be safe and have fun! One last thing good luck on getting the 28's to fit it is tough to say the least!

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I'm glad I have one
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
I dont like 2 steps at all.. They seem more detrimental, its really not that hard to watch your rpms and launch at the same or similar spot every time.

fwiw you shouldnt have to leave off the limiter, 6500 or so should be more than enough.

And the last time at the track I went 11.01, 11.03, 11.05, 1.42, 1.43, 1.44 60's back to back, without a 2 step.
If you're doing any kind of racing at all, the two step will make it much easier to be consistent. I guarantee if you're running on a pro tree and try to modulate the pedal the same each time, you're going to be late every time or you won't leave at the same rpm every time. Especially if it's heads up. However, if you're not doing any racing then no you don't need a two step. They just make things a little easier.
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I just found out this week I made it on a Pinks All Out..thats why Im trying to get my crap together for July..

Id say I need one do I dont have to watch the tach..like Sweiser said...Ill be late on his arms..

Theres no way they will pick an 11 second class but if they do I wanna at least have a chance..

Were goin more for fun than anything but ya never know..
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pro tree its a must, the arm drop they move some cars, get one!
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
I dont like 2 steps at all.. They seem more detrimental, its really not that hard to watch your rpms and launch at the same or similar spot every time.

fwiw you shouldnt have to leave off the limiter, 6500 or so should be more than enough.

And the last time at the track I went 11.01, 11.03, 11.05, 1.42, 1.43, 1.44 60's back to back, without a 2 step.
maybe so but at my track if you aint .020 or better on the light your going home, so anything that keeps my eye on the tree is a plus in my book, i too will be looking at the two step soon.
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Originally Posted by SWeiser31
If you're doing any kind of racing at all, the two step will make it much easier to be consistent. I guarantee if you're running on a pro tree and try to modulate the pedal the same each time, you're going to be late every time or you won't leave at the same rpm every time. Especially if it's heads up. However, if you're not doing any racing then no you don't need a two step. They just make things a little easier.
To each their own. I wonder how Ronnie sox ever won any races without a 2 step?
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i am looking to buy one myself. they are really nice and sound cool. if you have boost it really helps you build boost before launching.
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Love my two step, posted a video of me playing with it. I like the fact that i can watch the tree and not where i going to rev to, Its already set
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
To each their own. I wonder how Ronnie sox ever won any races without a 2 step?
No one had one back then and almost everyone ran sticks in his class. I know what you're saying and you're not wrong. I'm just giving my take on it.
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Obviosuly things have gotten a lot easyer today with todays tech...I think it would have to be a lot easyer than watching your tach adn trying to watch the tree..I guess I just need to get good at "listening" to the motor..
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first time I tried leaving at 5k on slicks, I snapped the output shaft like a twig.



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