FBody "Temec" T56 6 Speed Man. Trans.
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FBody "Temec" T56 6 Speed Man. Trans.
Hi,
Will this tranny take the torque of a 1200 HP supercharged LS7 or LSX engine?
Can the T56 be beefed up?
Are there other options (transmissions) available?
Thanks,
Brian.
Will this tranny take the torque of a 1200 HP supercharged LS7 or LSX engine?
Can the T56 be beefed up?
Are there other options (transmissions) available?
Thanks,
Brian.
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That kindof power is beyond the limits of any standard manual transmission. Are your horsepower numbers at the crank or wheels? Even with an aftermarket gearset the heat generated is going to be crazy along with the stress on the case. It is just going to burn the input and cluster gear up every time.
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Very modded 6L80e transmissions don't exist. They are junk. There is no aftermarket support for them. All that is available are a few upgraded clutch packs and some small hard parts. *NO ONE* is keeping these things alive. Please don't steer people looking for high horsepower capable transmissions towards 6L80e's
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A 32-spline conversion coupled with a Viper input shaft, then cryogenic treatment and micropolished gears would get you close. This combo has not been tested to my knowledge, but I don't see why it wouldn't be good for 1000+rw.
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That combo has been tested more than enough. At that power level shafts aren't going to solve the problem, LS1 input shafts don't break. The input gear on a Viper input shaft isn't any stronger than a stock LS1 input. We have had more than enough T56s with insain horsepower in front of them come into the shop to know that no matter what shafts, surface treatment or snake oil you throw at a T56 1000rwtq is going to burn up the input and cluster or simply strip the gear clean of teeth. You didn't even mention direct input and cluster oiling. That is a must of any high power T56. At the power level in question he needs a built T56 Magnum with input and cluster oiling with a cooler and limit the WOT power pulls.
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I would have to agree with Jeremy. This M12 came out from a certain Vette putting 900 or so at the wheels. This was the result of a 3 gear pull on the highway. He now has TR6060 with good results.
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That combo has been tested more than enough. At that power level shafts aren't going to solve the problem, LS1 input shafts don't break. The input gear on a Viper input shaft isn't any stronger than a stock LS1 input. We have had more than enough T56s with insain horsepower in front of them come into the shop to know that no matter what shafts, surface treatment or snake oil you throw at a T56 1000rwtq is going to burn up the input and cluster or simply strip the gear clean of teeth. You didn't even mention direct input and cluster oiling. That is a must of any high power T56. At the power level in question he needs a built T56 Magnum with input and cluster oiling with a cooler and limit the WOT power pulls.
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Vehicle weight will play a huge factor in how well any transmission survives.
I'd suggest the OP look into a Liberty or G-force trans if it's going to be a drag car. The extra money you'll invest into the Liberty will far outweigh the headache you would have with trying to get a T56 to last behind that much power.
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Mike
I'd suggest the OP look into a Liberty or G-force trans if it's going to be a drag car. The extra money you'll invest into the Liberty will far outweigh the headache you would have with trying to get a T56 to last behind that much power.
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Without a doubt. Other things that play a role are the type of clutch, how the engine makes the power not just the total output of the engine, type of rear tire and even the differential gear ratio plays a role.
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Did one for a Nova that made over 1000 rwhp once that did the same thing. We've seen it a bunch of times on transmissions we didn't rebuild however...those were just the two that have broken that we did rebuild. I too have never seen a broken f-body or GTO input shaft (seen a few bent GTO and cobras as some wierd result of a broken axle). The teeth of the gear simply can't take it and a viper input is no difference there as has already been mentioned in this thread by Jeremey...
There have been good reports about the fluid pumps spraying the teeth of the input by guys that had failures before the pump....but I haven't seen that first hand.