Cadillac CTS-V - First 2nd Gen V2 in the 9's




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gnxs
01-15-2011, 01:07 PM
A guy in FL with some nice mods and a 200 shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNTl38xi6Bg


ColeGraham
01-15-2011, 01:16 PM
damn...i wonder if the guy in the F Body knew what was about to hit him. a 4 door 4200 pound Cadillac with heated and cooled seats beating him by over 2 seconds...god damn i want a V2...

thanks for sharing the video.

atoler27
01-15-2011, 02:21 PM
please be me one day.... please be me one day..... lol sickest machine in the world imo


KamaSutra
01-15-2011, 02:39 PM
I bought the wrong generation lol!

RedHotG8
01-15-2011, 05:42 PM
That Caddy is definitely a monster! Those of you that want one should check the insurance rates. I'm sure he's paying more than most of us considering the price of it and all that power under the hood.

CGMLS3
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
Strolling!

UnsafeAtAnySpd
01-15-2011, 08:18 PM
That Caddy is definitely a monster! Those of you that want one should check the insurance rates. I'm sure he's paying more than most of us considering the price of it and all that power under the hood.

It's probably not that bad. Full coverage on 04 CTS-V, 04 F-450 powerstroke, 07 Jeep SRT8 and liability on 84 K5 Blazer is only about $190 a month for me and I'm only 25.

It's ridiculous how fast these full weight cars are though. Damn. Me want.

RedHotG8
01-15-2011, 08:21 PM
The 04 CTS-V puts out a lot less power than the new CTS-V, so it's probably classified as a sports car rather than a 4 door family car like your car and my G8.

toohighpsi
01-15-2011, 11:10 PM
I did not notice any difference in rates going from my V1 to V2, in fact it's basically the same price (within $25) per year as my suburban or edge.

toohighpsi
01-15-2011, 11:11 PM
Oh yea, damn nice pass!

itsslow98
01-15-2011, 11:12 PM
boy what id do to be these rich care free guys who can spray a 200 shot in a brand new 55k dollar car. do that a few more time and hell be writing a check for a rebuilt motor.

RedHotG8
01-15-2011, 11:37 PM
I did not notice any difference in rates going from my V1 to V2, in fact it's basically the same price (within $25) per year as my suburban or edge.
That doesn't seem right. I pay more to insure my 08 G8 than I do my 04 Quest since it has a higher replacement value. And when I went from a 04 GTP to the G8 the premium went up because the car is worth more. What ins co are you with?

Remo
01-16-2011, 12:07 AM
What mods on that 9sec V?

rand49er
01-16-2011, 07:03 AM
Wow. Over two tons accelerated to nearly 140 mph in under 10 sec. Wow.

gnxs
01-16-2011, 07:36 AM
Did I mistakenly post this on Insurance Rates.com? I'm sorry, I was looking for LS1Tech.com :rotflmao:

jweymar
01-16-2011, 09:42 AM
nice traction, hard to get these heavy cars to hook up for sure

SWEET

Domsz06
01-16-2011, 09:47 AM
That Caddy is definitely a monster! Those of you that want one should check the insurance rates. I'm sure he's paying more than most of us considering the price of it and all that power under the hood.
insurance it TOTALLY dependent on age, driver, location, record etc. My v is actually cheaper then my z06....

Bad arse car!! I love it. I'm curious to see how long it lasts on a 200 shot, he wants to bump it to a 250.....

I know he has a ton of mods, but can't remember if it's still a stock lower end or if he forged it....

Domsz06
01-16-2011, 09:50 AM
What mods on that 9sec V?
lower and upper pulley, CAI, heads, cam, headers, exhaust, on the car's 3rd tranny, 200 shot. (he is not the first owner)

like i said in the earlier post, I don't remember if he has rebuilt the bottom end yet or not. He said the tranny was slipping. He is gonna have it rebuilt at circle d I think I read and then try for 9.5. After that he is talking about forging it, running a 400 shot and putting it into the 8's. He is around 850 rwhp right now.

gnxs
01-16-2011, 10:21 AM
Dom,

I believe he already has a stock displacement, completely forged short-block. From one of his posts:

"This was done with a 200 shot with stock displacement forged internals on a bone stock blower."

Domsz06
01-16-2011, 11:02 AM
gnxs,

yeah I read that too, but then later on he says it's all stock.... so I was confused. Several have asked him on the other forum and he never said, "forged bottom end" so I was just confused...

Maybe he is now on a forged... idk...

Still impressive none the less!!! ;)

Remo
01-16-2011, 06:41 PM
not to hijack, but that is bad ass!!! i here of a dude im my home town with a ZR1 putting down 930rwhp. He called out a buddy of mine on a busa. I didnt think he could get 930 out of it. But now im interested. Yall know who did the work on the CTS-V?

Remo

ColeGraham
01-16-2011, 07:11 PM
The 04 CTS-V puts out a lot less power than the new CTS-V, so it's probably classified as a sports car rather than a 4 door family car like your car and my G8.

That doesn't seem right. I pay more to insure my 08 G8 than I do my 04 Quest since it has a higher replacement value. And when I went from a 04 GTP to the G8 the premium went up because the car is worth more. What ins co are you with?

just did a check with me insurance company...

i am 24, single, and have 3 accidents and a couple tickets on my record. going V1 to V2 will add 5 dollars a month to my insurance. i was told since the V2 has much more safety and security features makes it about to same to insure. that is with a mutli-vehicle discount.

but if i just take the premium for a V1 alone for my 07, if would go up 10 dollars a month.

RedHotG8
01-16-2011, 07:56 PM
More than likely you were already paying high rates on the V1 since you're under 25, single, and have tickets and accidents on your record. There's only so much they can raise your rates since you're paying out the nose already, so that's why the V2 isn't much more. I'm sure with your age and being single, and having tickets and accidents, you're paying more to insure the V2 than I'm paying to insure my G8, Harley and our minivan.

ColeGraham
01-16-2011, 08:06 PM
More than likely you were already paying high rates on the V1 since you're under 25, single, and have tickets and accidents on your record. There's only so much they can raise your rates since you're paying out the nose already, so that's why the V2 isn't much more.

i am paying 205 a month right now for 2 vehicles. 2007 V1 and a 2002 Ford Truck 4x4. my policy is for the max full coverage for everything for can insure with a $500. both collision and comprehensive are 300,000/100,000 dollar coverage. of that 205, 120 is for the V.

the lowest quote i got from any other insurance companies, with identical coverage, was 524 a month. if i want to minimum coverage, i would but 260 a month.

edit: if i was married, my current policy would be almost cut in half. down 115 a month with nothing else changing.

vette0009
01-16-2011, 08:11 PM
Yeah to make things Worse

That guy in the V- is a Senior Citizen

RedHotG8
01-16-2011, 08:29 PM
Cole that sounds about right. I'm 51 and married with a clean driving record and pay half what you do on 2 vehicles and a motorcycle. Hopefully the lower rate company you're with won't give you any troubles if you make a claim. When I was your age I had high risk insurance and the company was a pain in the butt to deal with.

ColeGraham
01-16-2011, 08:39 PM
Cole that sounds about right. I'm 51 and married with a clean driving record and pay half what you do on 2 vehicles and a motorcycle. Hopefully the lower rate company you're with won't give you any troubles if you make a claim. When I was your age I had high risk insurance and the company was a pain in the butt to deal with.

i havent gotten anything recently, the last ticket was in march of 09 and accident was in june of 09. so i have "kept me nose clean", haha. the company (USAA) i have uses my age, rank, and driving record. i know that a normal company, i would be paying out the ass for insurance. which is why i am trying not to get anything else of my record.

danieloneil01
01-16-2011, 09:36 PM
It's probably not that bad. Full coverage on 04 CTS-V, 04 F-450 powerstroke, 07 Jeep SRT8 and liability on 84 K5 Blazer is only about $190 a month for me and I'm only 25.

It's ridiculous how fast these full weight cars are though. Damn. Me want.

No fucking way unless you use the type of insurance that doesn't answer you when you call to make a claim.

25yrs old with 3 cars with full coverage and 1 with liability? Is your deductible 5k? Or are you one your parents policy?

whisler151
01-17-2011, 08:05 AM
Nevermind...I can't read.

Domsz06
01-17-2011, 09:24 AM
No fucking way unless you use the type of insurance that doesn't answer you when you call to make a claim.

25yrs old with 3 cars with full coverage and 1 with liability? Is your deductible 5k? Or are you one your parents policy?
if he only has the min liability and 1000 deduct I could see it.

gnxs
01-17-2011, 09:33 AM
gnxs,

yeah I read that too, but then later on he says it's all stock.... so I was confused. Several have asked him on the other forum and he never said, "forged bottom end" so I was just confused...

Maybe he is now on a forged... idk...

Still impressive none the less!!! ;)
Yea, it's like pulling teeth trying to get comprehensive info out of him. Add to that the fact that the only time he ever visits that forum is when he posts a new best time and reliable info becomes even harder to find.

Like you said though, still kick-ass for a stock weight "V".

Dustin@PremierAutosports
01-17-2011, 10:05 AM
Its a forged motor from what I have seen. I'm glad someone went this fast, it will save me from pushing mine to do the same. I enjoy driving mine so much I rather just keep it right at 700whp and enjoy it.

Its flying for something so damn heavy. These times even the high 10 second V's are amazing how quick they are going.

Mike@Diablosport
01-17-2011, 11:11 AM
Wow, a thread about the fastest V in the world, and you guys are arguing insurance rates?

Really?

MIAdragon
01-17-2011, 05:46 PM
Yeah to make things Worse

That guy in the V- is a Senior Citizen

+ if its who I think it is, its not even his "fast" car.

liqidvenom
01-18-2011, 12:54 AM
Wow, a thread about the fastest V in the world, and you guys are arguing insurance rates?

Really?

its because th V1 guys can never focus on anything that has to do with actual performance times it seems.

i need to buy a v2 despite how heavy it is, it can move.

UnsafeAtAnySpd
01-18-2011, 02:44 AM
No fucking way unless you use the type of insurance that doesn't answer you when you call to make a claim.

25yrs old with 3 cars with full coverage and 1 with liability? Is your deductible 5k? Or are you one your parents policy?

Parents policy? lol ...$300k/100k with $1000 collision and $500 comprehensive with roadside service, rental reimbursement, etc. I insure with GEICO. They give good rates for military (was cheaper than USAA. I wasn't happy with their service when I totaled my first V).

Anyway, this is funny the two topics going on in this thread. V2 is sick...

cbloveday
01-18-2011, 05:51 AM
Got to give the guy credit for pushing the rig into the nines. If the car breaks, doubt we
will hear about it. As gnxs said, he is tight lipped about everything except his passes.

Mike@Diablosport
01-18-2011, 11:48 AM
Got to give the guy credit for pushing the rig into the nines. If the car breaks, doubt we
will hear about it. As gnxs said, he is tight lipped about everything except his passes. I've seen discussion on the car on the local forums where the owner is a member. He did admit it has a 100% stock 6L80 in it...not too shabby.

JNR_Design
01-18-2011, 12:40 PM
Perhaps the owner of that V is confused thinking the LSA comes forged (like the LS9) from the factory? Damn good times for such a heavy car, although don't want to think how much it cost to get there (incl the car).

As much as I like the performance of the V2, I am happy with mine and the fact it was about 1/3 the price of a new one [seen them ~$72k with options] and still nice and decent power, etc. Sure I could afford one, but I'd rather put that difference of $ to good use. When they become cheaper, maybe I'd consider one, but in the meantime, need to focus on higher priorities in life :)

I did not notice much of an increase on my V1...It went up a little from 06 GTO to 05 WK 4x4 to 07 CTS-V. I know the V2 would cost more simply based on replacement value and the rates completely vary by state. Here in mexicommifornia, we pay up the butt for everything :( However, I am married with a good driving record, homeowners and multiple vehicles. I wouldn't want to see the $ for accidents, tickets, under 25 and single. Yikes!

cbloveday
01-18-2011, 01:26 PM
If I am not mistaken, the v2 auto is a 6l90, just like like the 6L80 only a little stronger. I doubt the owner is confusing the internals of his LSA and the LS9

He specifically stated that he has forged the internals.

He'll need to address the tranny next.

What surprised me is he is running the TR6 with a 200 shot!

V-seriesTech
01-18-2011, 08:14 PM
Wow, a thread about the fastest V in the world, and you guys are arguing insurance rates?

Really?



amen brother.

supergay.

However, how about them south florida hot rods? Thats sick to see this 4 door CADILLAC going this quick. Very sick!!! I'd like to know more details about it, and where it's actually from,... who works on it, etc. Very cool, thanks for posting video.

cbloveday
01-19-2011, 06:24 AM
Here is his announcement thread. Like we said, he doesn't reveal alot.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/219649-new-personal-best.html

miami gto
01-24-2011, 01:27 AM
Here is his announcement thread. Like we said, he doesn't reveal alot.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/219649-new-personal-best.html

I don't know what more you would want me to reveal? I have pretty much posted all of the mods to my car on the Cadillac forum? I just don't live on the forum every day talking about my car like some people. I post up what I run when I go to the track so people could see what can be done with the V. By the way if you haven't noticed I am 600+ on the Cadillac forum.

Domsz06
01-24-2011, 09:17 AM
I don't know what more you would want me to reveal? I have pretty much posted all of the mods to my car on the Cadillac forum? I just don't live on the forum every day talking about my car like some people. I post up what I run when I go to the track so people could see what can be done with the V. By the way if you haven't noticed I am 600+ on the Cadillac forum.
I think it was just asked about what exactly are your mods. That's all. It seams on some of the responses you have this or have that, since you built your engine in steps (I think)

Bad to the bone car! :)

whisler151
01-24-2011, 09:52 AM
I think it was just asked about what exactly are your mods. That's all. It seams on some of the responses you have this or have that, since you built your engine in steps (I think)

Bad to the bone car! :)

On the Caddy forum his mods are A, B, C, D, H, L, N, P, T, U, X.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/209520-1-4-mile-et-modifications-list.html

gnxs
01-24-2011, 11:01 AM
On the Caddy forum his mods are A, B, C, D, H, L, N, P, T, U, X.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/209520-1-4-mile-et-modifications-list.html
That's only because I researched and believe that list represents his mods. He never actually submitted his timeslip or complete mod list, but I believe it's fairly accurate. Even though he never made a submission for the list, I didn't think it right that a list of the fastest 2nd Gen V2's didn't have the fastest car listed.

hyespeeder
01-24-2011, 12:10 PM
wow amazing .... then again anything on the bottle is amazing ... its like a quick shot of adrenaline..

Does he have a roll cage ??

whisler151
01-24-2011, 12:12 PM
That's only because I researched and believe that list represents his mods. He never actually submitted his timeslip or complete mod list, but I believe it's fairly accurate. Even though he never made a submission for the list, I didn't think it right that a list of the fastest 2nd Gen V2's didn't have the fastest car listed.

Oh. Well, never mind then.

Domsz06
01-24-2011, 01:40 PM
Oh. Well, never mind then.
no prob, that's why I asked him as well ;)

Hope we find out one day... :)

liqidvenom
01-24-2011, 02:07 PM
he might not care that about lists, but might be more into just laying down fast times in general. not everyone likes being on a pc it seems.

cbloveday
01-24-2011, 10:30 PM
I did ask him about his plugs and he is running 4177 tr6 with a 200 shot.
From what I have read and been told by Nitrous Vendors, he should be running a br7ef or br8ef. It should help his motor last longer with spray.

I am not an internet know it all, just trying to help. FWIW

gnxs
01-25-2011, 09:15 AM
he might not care that about lists, but might be more into just laying down fast times in general. not everyone likes being on a pc it seems.
I wasn't criticizing him, just noting that he's never formally submitted a precise list of his mods.

Domsz06
01-25-2011, 11:47 AM
I wasn't criticizing him, just noting that he's never formally submitted a precise list of his mods.
been trying to say the same thing....

Stone17
01-25-2011, 12:59 PM
lower and upper pulley, CAI, heads, cam, headers, exhaust, on the car's 3rd tranny, 200 shot. (he is not the first owner)

like i said in the earlier post, I don't remember if he has rebuilt the bottom end yet or not. He said the tranny was slipping. He is gonna have it rebuilt at circle d I think I read and then try for 9.5. After that he is talking about forging it, running a 400 shot and putting it into the 8's. He is around 850 rwhp right now.

Do you think Circle D can build that transmission up?
I had them rebuild a torque conversion for my Dodge Magnum STR-8 what was putting 620 rwhp. Week later the torque conversion came apart and took the transmission out. :barf:

Domsz06
01-25-2011, 01:44 PM
Do you think Circle D can build that transmission up?
I had them rebuild a torque conversion for my Dodge Magnum STR-8 what was putting 620 rwhp. Week later the torque conversion came apart and took the transmission out. :barf:
yes I think they could. I plan on stopping by there shop today or thursday to just bs and see what they can do. CB wanted me to stop and ask..

Stone17
01-25-2011, 02:37 PM
yes I think they could. I plan on stopping by there shop today or thursday to just bs and see what they can do. CB wanted me to stop and ask..

What every you do Don't go to Century Transmission in Richmond TX.
The owner said we can build a transmission for my SRT-8 to handle the power but they failed at that. Just a big waste of money going there.

cbloveday
01-25-2011, 08:31 PM
I believe alot of the aftermarket torque converters have caused tranny failures.

Been told to stick with the stock converter.

Rossler can beef it up and so can Circle D. I spoke to Rossler and would interested in what Circle D will do. Dom still interested in hearing from you. Also, glad everything worked out for you, if you know what I mean. :)

itsslow98
01-25-2011, 09:37 PM
I did ask him about his plugs and he is running 4177 tr6 with a 200 shot.
From what I have read and been told by Nitrous Vendors, he should be running a br7ef or br8ef. It should help his motor last longer with spray.

I am not an internet know it all, just trying to help. FWIW
TR6s are a projected tip plug which on spray can get to much heat and melt the tip off, therefore having a piece of metal flying around the motor. Br7ef are advised anything over 100 shot since they are a non projected tip plug.

Do you think Circle D can build that transmission up?
I had them rebuild a torque conversion for my Dodge Magnum STR-8 what was putting 620 rwhp. Week later the torque conversion came apart and took the transmission out.[QUOTE]
Maybe you should have bought a torque converter instead of conversion:confused: lol just giving you a hard time
[QUOTE=cbloveday;14412830]I believe alot of the aftermarket torque converters have caused tranny failures.

Been told to stick with the stock converter.

Rossler can beef it up and so can Circle D. I spoke to Rossler and would interested in what Circle D will do. Dom still interested in hearing from you. Also, glad everything worked out for you, if you know what I mean. :)

Heat kills trannies, torque converters with a tune increase line pressure most of the time which is even more rough on the trans. If your gonna make BIG power and want an auto go TH400 or 4l80e, 4l60s can only handle so much.

Domsz06
01-26-2011, 07:16 AM
I believe alot of the aftermarket torque converters have caused tranny failures.

Been told to stick with the stock converter.

Rossler can beef it up and so can Circle D. I spoke to Rossler and would interested in what Circle D will do. Dom still interested in hearing from you. Also, glad everything worked out for you, if you know what I mean. :)
yup i will go there and talk. V is back in the shop yesterday for those 2 TSB's and a recall, and they couldn't get it out. Didn't feel like rolling up in the slowbalt, and feeling a bit under the weather...

I will get there.

itsslow98
01-26-2011, 04:57 PM
oh an cbloveday, throw a stall in any fbody and instantly knock a half second off youre e.t., build thje tranny and really run it hard and some cars can knock almost a full second off e.t.'s........stalls work but im not sure they do as much for 09 Vs