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Old 04-24-2011, 01:24 PM
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Default 275/35/18 tire up front & 305/35/18 Rear.... (can it be done?)

Ok.... Have Mickey Thompson drag radials on rear 305/35/18's
Have 255/40/18's gsd3's up front & it has worked out fine.

I'm gonna need some new front tires & I have 2 nearly new gsds's that were left over from the past ( 275/35/18's )
So I thought if I could use these in front I wouldn't have to buy new tires for up front.
In the past I've always kept tire diameter to less than 3% difference front to back & have never had a problem with stability control or ABS systems

So, I'm asking if anyone has gone over 3% diameter difference front to back ? ( this would be like 3.15%)
And has anyone run 275/35/18's up front "without rubbing" ?

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I don't have a definitive answer, but would imagine the tires would rub on turns and such, although that is considering oem wheel offset/size and not sure what yours are (but like those wheels btw)...

I suppose you could take a really close look at what you have now and add the extra width/diameter in your head, so to speak, but remember that it will be a different case (worse) when the car is moving and has its weight shifting around and bumps/other road conditions, if that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by JNR_Design
I don't have a definitive answer, but would imagine the tires would rub on turns and such, although that is considering oem wheel offset/size and not sure what yours are (but like those wheels btw)...

I suppose you could take a really close look at what you have now and add the extra width/diameter in your head, so to speak, but remember that it will be a different case (worse) when the car is moving and has its weight shifting around and bumps/other road conditions, if that makes sense.
My gut feeling is it will not work.....Guess I'm just hoping someone has made it
work & proves me wrong
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Yeah, know what you mean and guess there's only on way to be 100% sure...

Do you have a tire shop nearby that may have a couple scrap tires they'd be willing to mount for you, to give you a better idea? Might cost a few bucks to have them do that (probably no need to balance if it's a test fit only), but may be worth it to answer for sure...

If you do that, perhaps jack up one side a little and do some turns and such to simulate the car turning under compression, so to speak...

If it can be done, sure would be cool! One of my only complaints on this car is the lack of tire, but still better than (not much though) the little skinnies my GTO came with (235/40-18), where it almost made it dangerous, lol.
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it can be done. you just have to use a spacer to get the clearance. D3s V1 competition package use 335/30 in the rear and 295/30 in front. Link

Good Luck
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Originally Posted by ColeGraham
it can be done. you just have to use a spacer to get the clearance. D3s V1 competition package use 335/30 in the rear and 295/30 in front. Link

Good Luck
That car has fender flares. It looks like the wheels extend well past the OE fender openings. I've had hard enough rubs (right front and rear) on my '05 to unroll 3-4 inches of the opening lip front/rear( stock height with 275 rear, stock 245's on front). So, unless you drive absolutely straight with no curves, I don't see your running much more than 245's up front and somewhat wider than 275's with upgraded trailering arms and widened/custom wheels in the rear.
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never said its easy...just saying it can be done
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Originally Posted by Gus_Mahn
That car has fender flares. It looks like the wheels extend well past the OE fender openings. I've had hard enough rubs (right front and rear) on my '05 to unroll 3-4 inches of the opening lip front/rear( stock height with 275 rear, stock 245's on front). So, unless you drive absolutely straight with no curves, I don't see your running much more than 245's up front and somewhat wider than 275's with upgraded trailering arms and widened/custom wheels in the rear.
I think i remember someone with after market wheels running a 265 up front... he ran 265 all around. So i think on a well thought out setup it might be possible, but you should go by a wheel shop and have them take some measurements.
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I run 275/35/18s all around on the track. Stock ride height, FE4s.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-...t-up-pics.html

275s all around with pics
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
I think i remember someone with after market wheels running a 265 up front... he ran 265 all around. So i think on a well thought out setup it might be possible, but you should go by a wheel shop and have them take some measurements.
I ran for 2yrs, I Mich PS2 265-40-18 all round on the OEM 8.5 rim
no rubbing and went to many track events
I tried this size only I confirmed with Luke and Lindsey Cadillac service mgr

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Originally Posted by UnsafeAtAnySpd
I run 275/35/18s all around on the track. Stock ride height, FE4s.
Q: so I assume I can run a Hoosier R6 275-30-18 on the OEM stock 8.5 rim?
...front rubbing???

anyone tried 275-30-18 on stock rim?

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Im running 295/35/18 in the rear and 255/40/18 up front on stock wheels. I'm lowered too and have no issues...
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Originally Posted by JNR_Design
I don't have a definitive answer, but would imagine the tires would rub on turns and such...
I just assumed he didn't care about turns and such since he's running 305 drag radials in the rear.

Originally Posted by UnsafeAtAnySpd
I run 275/35/18s all around on the track. Stock ride height, FE4s.
275/35-18s (on 18x9s) on track here, as well, running lowered on KW V3s. No issues.

Originally Posted by jerrycecco
Q: so I assume I can run a Hoosier R6 275-30-18 on the OEM stock 8.5 rim?
Are you having Hoosier custom make you some 275/30s? Their website doesn't show that they make the R6 in that size.

Originally Posted by jerrycecco
anyone tried 275-30-18 on stock rim
275/35-18s are recommended to be mounted on 9-11" wheels. A 275/30 (if such a thing existed), with an even shorter sidewall, would probably be recommended for 9.5" or wider.

I wouldn't put 275 Hoosiers on an 8.5" wheel.
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Originally Posted by skydiver
In the past I've always kept tire diameter to less than 3% difference front to back & have never had a problem with stability control or ABS systems

So, I'm asking if anyone has gone over 3% diameter difference front to back ? ( this would be like 3.15%)
I don't know if there's any real basis to the 3% thing. I've seen that number mentioned a few times, but I don't know where it comes from - did some GM ABS engineer say 3% is the limit, or is it just internet hearsay?

I say give it a shot!
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Originally Posted by AAIIIC
I don't know if there's any real basis to the 3% thing. I've seen that number mentioned a few times, but I don't know where it comes from - did some GM ABS engineer say 3% is the limit, or is it just internet hearsay?

I say give it a shot!
I've run as much as a 5% difference from stock O.D. (with a smaller difference from front to back) and I didn't have any stabilitrak issues.

I also ran 275/35/18 tires in front this weekend, lowered slightly in the front, and did not have rubbing issues of any kind. I also have very stiff springs that keep the car from leaning or squatting in turns.
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAtAnySpd
I run 275/35/18s all around on the track. Stock ride height, FE4s.
Me to except my car is lowered quite a bit with KW3s
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Originally Posted by AAIIIC
Are you having Hoosier custom make you some 275/30s? Their website doesn't show that they make the R6 in that size.


275/35-18s are recommended to be mounted on 9-11" wheels. A 275/30 (if such a thing existed), with an even shorter sidewall, would probably be recommended for 9.5" or wider.

I wouldn't put 275 Hoosiers on an 8.5" wheel.
hmmmm...I saw the tires for sale on a local ad, that's what the guy emailed me
I'll need to go see the tires in person...maybe not R6's...

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Originally Posted by jerrycecco
Q: so I assume I can run a Hoosier R6 275-30-18 on the OEM stock 8.5 rim?
...front rubbing???

anyone tried 275-30-18 on stock rim?

--Jerry
It's probably really a 275/35/18 as already mentioned. It's a fairly common size. I run my R6s on the Team Dynamics wheels.


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