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Old 04-28-2011, 09:39 PM
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Question need auto in my 06 V

Has anyone ever tried the automatic swap in a V1....My builder wants to try it, and i want one since i am running boost for track purposes..He has a built 400turbo ready to put in but i just wanted to see if someone on the forum has tried and failed or succeded to fit it in our tunnel..thanks
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never heard of one, I know it'd take some work. It's a shame you can't take your car back up to RPM. They were one of the first to put an auto in a C6Z and they said they would attempt it.

and IMO I would rather have the 4l80 in the V rather then a TH400.
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How much power are you making>??? If it is a street car and isn't making insane power I would go with a 4L60E. BIG power I would try and put a 4L80E in it but good luck getting that monster to fit. A 400 should be the LAST option. 3-speed in street car = lame.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
never heard of one, I know it'd take some work. It's a shame you can't take your car back up to RPM. They were one of the first to put an auto in a C6Z and they said they would attempt it.

and IMO I would rather have the 4l80 in the V rather then a TH400.
That's what i really want a 4 speed auto...but ECM problems can be bypassed with the old reliable 400...
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
How much power are you making>??? If it is a street car and isn't making insane power I would go with a 4L60E. BIG power I would try and put a 4L80E in it but good luck getting that monster to fit. A 400 should be the LAST option. 3-speed in street car = lame.
Yeah it certainly would hurt my mileage, but i wouldn't say lame...My 373's should be good gearing for the turbo400 and ATI converter..I drive my V to only car rallys and to the track...Probably put about 2,500 miles per year on her. Power will be somewhere around 650-950 at the wheels depending on the boost and tune and gas with meth...Still looking for a good fuel pump..
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
How much power are you making>??? If it is a street car and isn't making insane power I would go with a 4L60E. BIG power I would try and put a 4L80E in it but good luck getting that monster to fit. A 400 should be the LAST option. 3-speed in street car = lame.
4l60e is a waste of money in a big HP car that weighs as much as the V. Even a built one would be on borrowed time.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
4l60e is a waste of money in a big HP car that weighs as much as the V. Even a built one would be on borrowed time.
It all depends on the power. Would I want one in a 1000RWHP car>??? No.

I would feel confident in building one for a 500-600RWHP vehicle though.
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Originally Posted by GREG O.
Yeah it certainly would hurt my mileage, but i wouldn't say lame...My 373's should be good gearing for the turbo400 and ATI converter..I drive my V to only car rallys and to the track...Probably put about 2,500 miles per year on her. Power will be somewhere around 650-950 at the wheels depending on the boost and tune and gas with meth...Still looking for a good fuel pump..
At those power levels I would go with the TH400. Lame was the wrong word. I just hate a 3-speed on the highway.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
and IMO I would rather have the 4l80 in the V rather then a TH400.
i am with allen on this one...

4L80-E over the TH400...or if you want to keep the V very street-able, maybe find a 6L80-E.
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I don't think you are going to get a 4L80E under the car. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
I don't think you are going to get a 4L80E under the car. I could be wrong though.
You wont fit any auto under the car is the bottom line, You have to cut the tunnel one way or another.
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
It all depends on the power. Would I want one in a 1000RWHP car>??? No.

I would feel confident in building one for a 500-600RWHP vehicle though.
In an fbody maybe, but not in a 4,000lb car...although the rear may give before the tranny in this case..haha.
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
How much power are you making>??? If it is a street car and isn't making insane power I would go with a 4L60E. BIG power I would try and put a 4L80E in it but good luck getting that monster to fit. A 400 should be the LAST option. 3-speed in street car = lame.
That's gotta be a first, someone recommending a 4L60E! I've got through 3 of them in my '96 Impala SS. And we're talking about ~250hp behind the LT1, not 400 of the LS6/LS2!

It wasn't until Phoenix Trans from Weatherford built a stage 1 that it hasn't faltered since for me.
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Talk to Rossler, he has made a 4L60E live behind a little more power than that in an overweight Impala.

The 4L60E gets a bad rap because of bad builders and ignorant people who keep using bad builders.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Talk to Rossler, he has made a 4L60E live behind a little more power than that in an overweight Impala.

The 4L60E gets a bad rap because of bad builders and ignorant people who keep using bad builders.
This!
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Originally Posted by LAYGO
That's gotta be a first, someone recommending a 4L60E! I've got through 3 of them in my '96 Impala SS. And we're talking about ~250hp behind the LT1, not 400 of the LS6/LS2!

It wasn't until Phoenix Trans from Weatherford built a stage 1 that it hasn't faltered since for me.
Don't knock the trans, knock the builder.
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Originally Posted by SVT F15O
Don't knock the trans, knock the builder.
Ok, GM built (or installed) a lot of bad trans!

Mine was untouched when it grenaded on me. Stock from the factory, including the motor. Probably around 50k original miles when it happened. I bought the car with 30k on the clock.

This story is repeated by lots of original factory built trans.
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If I was going to spend the money to put an auto in the V I would put the TCI built GM 6 speed auto. As far as the 4L60E goes I have a 700R4 behind a twin turbo putting out over 750 hp in a 78 Vette on drag radials for 6 years. They can be built right.
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700R4 isn't quite a TH400 in strength, but can be built to handle some good power. However, not sure what it takes to mate it to an LS-series engine or how practical, etc.

I believe the reason these did not come available in auto was it wouldn't fit. Now, anything can be done within reason and how much difference there is in size from th400 to whatever trans GM was talking about...

I think this is a terrible drag racing chassis and would suggest finding something else for track fun, but it's your car, of course. Beyond the auto, you have the IRS to deal with and just seems like so much effort, although guess it would be neat (if I could get past the cringing thought of doing such a thing as th400 in the car, without going all the way, with solid axle, minitub, etc. )
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Originally Posted by JNR_Design
700R4 isn't quite a TH400 in strength, but can be built to handle some good power. However, not sure what it takes to mate it to an LS-series engine or how practical, etc.

I believe the reason these did not come available in auto was it wouldn't fit. Now, anything can be done within reason and how much difference there is in size from th400 to whatever trans GM was talking about...

I think this is a terrible drag racing chassis and would suggest finding something else for track fun, but it's your car, of course. Beyond the auto, you have the IRS to deal with and just seems like so much effort, although guess it would be neat (if I could get past the cringing thought of doing such a thing as th400 in the car, without going all the way, with solid axle, minitub, etc. )
I hear that But as far as the chassis goes, have u ever jacked up a rear tire on the frame at the side of the V.. he!l if u lift it up about 6" the tire on the other side comes up with it...That blew my mind when i saw that...So i think the chassis is awesome for strength and rigidnes..It is just 3,850lbs


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