Pontiac GTO 2004-2006 - irriation

I"m venting because i'm rather irriated...I posted on ls1gto.com about getting the vararam to fit on my 04 gto...thinking ppl would be like bad ass how did you do it....wrong... everyone bashed me saying I should have bought the svede...bc on the 04 the vararam doesnt suck from the hood...news flash it doesn't on 05s either...the scoops are low pressure zones which do not promote air flow...so inturn the vararam is just like the svede they both suck from the grills also i'm gonna be fabbing up ducts to direct the air to the vararam...and completely seal the hood from the intake...

It changed over there over the years. I just go over to see if theres any good topics but besides that i just come here.

lol those dudes are d-bags. i got bashed for misspelling 3 words on one of my threads. If you dont spend top dollar on the gto it cant be right according to that forum! lol, just brush it off man. It just isnt worth it.

i mean seriously are you gonna spend 500 on and intake for 150 on one you can get to do the same?

lol those dudes are d-bags. i got bashed for misspelling 3 words on one of my threads. If you dont spend top dollar on the gto it cant be right according to that forum! lol, just brush it off man. It just isnt worth it.
Same guys that are here pretty much altho the traffic here is almost non-existent for GTO related topics. . . . and we haven't even commented on "irriation" :). BTW both Firefox and Chrome have built-in spell check.
i mean seriously are you gonna spend 500 on and intake for 150 on one you can get to do the same?
I think the VR is the second best intake and a viable option altho it's a mis-statement to say they do the same thing. You've also greatly exaggerated the price spread. It's $275 and $400. If you got a used one that's a bonus but that's like comparing a new and used car. A low price on a used part reflects low demand. Try buying a used FAST. I'm sure you'll enjoy your intake but seriously, nobody raved on your idea because it's not new and had been done several times before.

And to the OP - you're always welcome at GasTiresOil.com

The vararam is garbage. I had it on my old gto. You had to buy stuff at Home Depot to try and get it to seal against the hood and it still wouldn't. It was a rushed product and they still haven't tried to make it better. Not to mention you have to hack up the radiator shroud to put it in or at the least remove it.

JUST MY OPINION

Im very happy with my K&N its cheap and easy to install (comes with all the hardware haha) and just looks real nice under the hood, lets face it you wont see huge performance gains out of any CAI... the factory box was designed to give you more air than you needed anyways..

I think the Vararam is a great looking intake, just limited on the amount of cold air coming in unless you do have scoops coming in from the top of the hood. I have seen guys build additional ducting in the front bumper scooping the air up which seemed to work pretty well for them. The only thing that bothers me about it, is that the MAF is too crowded towards the throttle body. I would lean more towards this intake design if I was using speed density, eliminating the MAF completely. What would be sick is if the radiator was lowered a few inches allowing the front grills to blow air into the filter. Regardless, I hope its working well for you man.

ls1gto seems to be a way better forum as to GTO topics. A lot of good people on there...I would rethink your bitching before you need help from one of us.

ls1gto seems to be a way better forum as to GTO topics. A lot of good people on there...I would rethink your bitching before you need help from one of us.

no way man, most of the guys on that site need to get off their high horse and realize they drive pontiac gto's.....not ferrari gto's:eek2:

last time i checked i'm the one working on my car not you guys....which means i don't need your help....

I think the closer is the better to the tb i may be wrong but i've heard the closer the better throttle response I haven't really driving it yet...I'll let you know in a few days turner is supposed to come tune the car friday so we'll see

regardless svede of the price difference i only paid 150 for my vararam new...i'm not bashing your design what's so ever...if its been done so many times before...then why did i have so many emails of ppl asking me how I got it to work?...for what I paid for it I can justfy spending the extra money for a few hp...its just not worth it in my book

I'd take the svede over all of them. I had a Speed Inc at first. Then cobbled that together with a Lingenfelter. It flowed extremely well as it only dropped a little at WOT. The svede looks better and flows even better. Now I don't loose anything at WOT. Very impressive.

From what I've read, it outflows the Vararam. Same car, same conditions, same day, etc. That also verifies that it flows extremely well if the car is picking up MPH at the track. Hard to quantify power on a dyno when you are measuring airflow, but the track and logging at speed will tell you.

last time i checked i'm the one working on my car not you guys....which means i don't need your help....

You tell um! :twak:

last time i checked i'm the one working on my car not you guys....which means i don't need your help....

Awaiting a "My cars broke, please help" thread..........:bs:

news flash it doesn't on 05s either...the scoops are low pressure zones which do not promote air flow

Tell that to the two cone shaped dirt marks on my Vararam filter exactly where the scoops are. The air might not be rammed through the scoops, but the filter definitely pulls air through them...especially at low speeds.

agreed it is a very nice piece i'm not bashing it at all...if I would have found it for 150 i woulda bought it too...but I used to have a k and n so this is a huge step up for me...and there will be no thread my car is broke...i've built serveral motors ls based so I think i can figure anything out that i need to address

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agreed it is a very nice piece i'm not bashing it at all...if I would have found it for 150 i woulda bought it too...but I used to have a k and n so this is a huge step up for me...and there will be no thread my car is broke...i've built serveral motors ls based so I think i can figure anything out that i need to address

Good to know.

I think the closer is the better to the tb i may be wrong but i've heard the closer the better throttle response I haven't really driving it yet...I'll let you know in a few days turner is supposed to come tune the car friday so we'll see

Having the mass air meter in front of the throttle body would improve air velocity since it takes away that 90 degree bend. I'm all for it, however the problem is the mass air flow sensor should have at least a 4 inch distance from the throttle blade in order to avoid turbulence. Even though on a naturally aspirated engine this is not that big of a deal, on a forced induction application it is. Less turbulence in the air stream will result in cleaner MAF signals which is critical in partial throttle driving. This is part of the reason the screen is there from the factory 85mm mass, to straighten the air and reduce turbulence. I know the C5 Z06 didn't come with one, however the PCM tuning on the MAF transfer curve was accounted for.

no way man, most of the guys on that site need to get off their high horse and realize they drive pontiac gto's.....not ferrari gto's:eek2:

Well said :)

agreed i'm all for if you can do it the cheap way and fab something and make it look right instead of hood rigged more power too you

I"m venting because i'm rather irriated...I posted on ls1gto.com about getting the vararam to fit on my 04 gto...thinking ppl would be like bad ass how did you do it....wrong... everyone bashed me saying I should have bought the svede...bc on the 04 the vararam doesnt suck from the hood...news flash it doesn't on 05s either...the scoops are low pressure zones which do not promote air flow...so inturn the vararam is just like the svede they both suck from the grills also i'm gonna be fabbing up ducts to direct the air to the vararam...and completely seal the hood from the intake...

Hey man, I'd love to see some pics of how it came out if you could post them up.

not a problem there on my cell I'll have to figured out how to up load them up on here

I had the Vararam on my old '05 GTO. Looked pretty damn good but it was a pia when trying to get a tune down due to the air flow readings bouncing all over. I did get a lot of crap from everyone about it being useless and whatnot but it's a good idea. Just needed some tweaking. I ended up selling it to a guy on the other board. Never heard how it turned out for him.