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Old 01-07-2012, 10:16 PM
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considering a rear mount and likely cheap out all the way around and go with ebay stuff.

my question, does a rear mount set up have less power at first then the engine would have had NA? lets say you punch it from idle, i know the rear mount will have more lag but during this lag period is there actually less power then there would have been NA?

seems like the exhaust restriction wouldn't be too big of a deal with the right cam. i could see in intake restriction being a pretty big deal if there is any.
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Originally Posted by parish8
considering a rear mount and likely cheap out all the way around and go with ebay stuff.

my question, does a rear mount set up have less power at first then the engine would have had NA? lets say you punch it from idle, i know the rear mount will have more lag but during this lag period is there actually less power then there would have been NA?

seems like the exhaust restriction wouldn't be too big of a deal with the right cam. i could see in intake restriction being a pretty big deal if there is any.
Yes to a point a turbo is like a throttle, and exhaust brake all in one before it starts moving enough air to supply the engine. The more NA tq the engine makes the better it seems to fend tho. Just what my experience has been...
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i have no lag... just suspension bog
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if its all sized properly, there is no lag
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What is suspension bog? That's a new one to me
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when i had a STS kit YES it was a dog no throttle response low end sucked it was guttless that is till the boost cam so i say yes it makes less pre boost
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yeah, what is suspension bog? and of course there is some lag. i expect that and thats not what i am concerned with.
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a big factor is the tune. it shouldnt be all that different if you keep your 'out of boost' tuning as aggressive as before.
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mine was a nelson tune and im not sayin it was turbo lag i felt im sayin it didnt have the na power it had before like from a 2mph roll hit the gas and there is no power like it had NA like if there was a graph the turbo line PRE oboost would be lower than post boost.
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rear mounts 100% blow ***... i've yet to see a rear mount car run anywhere near what it should at the track.
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Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning
rear mounts 100% blow ***... i've yet to see a rear mount car run anywhere near what it should at the track.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCxO86uV5o
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From what I've seen , I would say that n/a power is reduce w/ a rear mount
My friends sts car would literally suck in the sillicone 90 at his tb, which leads me to believe that there is a great deal of intake restriction untill boost is made
Although this theory can be tested fairly easy , put a vacuum gauge pre throttle body on both front a front and rear mount system and see what kinda results you have
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If you're auto, a good stall will fix that problem. But yes, pre boost, mine has a little less torque. That all goes out the window at 3500 rpm.
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got it running with the rear mount china made 76. i can feel no loss of pre boost power. i have a ~3000 stall and 390 gear so i am sure that helps. car is zippy and fun just like it was but by 3500rpm it is flat out hauling ***.

i can do a rolling brake boost and hold the boost anywhere i want. then when i let it go it is like a hammer hitting. feels like a 200shot when i let it go.

i haven't tried much of a launch since with street tires and no boost it just lights them up. need to get some new drag radials.
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Sweet,go china. We will all be chinese soon any way so what the hell.
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If you are worried about pre-boost power, do a google search on the "The Dan Culkin Anti-Lag Valve ("D-valve")"

Basically its a check valve that opens if there is ever vacuum in the intake tract before the TB.
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Originally Posted by slow67
If you are worried about pre-boost power, do a google search on the "The Dan Culkin Anti-Lag Valve ("D-valve")"

Basically its a check valve that opens if there is ever vacuum in the intake tract before the TB.
That is very interesting...

Like a backward bypass valve... allows the air in instead of out
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