View Full Version : GoPro Vids added "Got some shakedown runs in .. SS w/SDPC 402 .. mid-7's at 103 mph"


BrianSF-GA
03-06-2012, 10:38 AM
We finally got some shakedown runs at Paradise Dragstrip in Calhoun, GA (1/8-mile). It was sunny and cool in the low 50's and the runs were late in the afternoon after the track was "going away" (if it was even there-local small track). This is the first time the car has ever been to the track and 30 years since the driver has been to the track in front of the tree. You can see the details about the car in my signature and "Garage" and here are a few pertinent details.

27x11.50-15 Hoosier QTP's (20-15 psig)
4.10's w/spool
Stock M6 w/OZ700
500rwhp/500rwt
Spohn Drag Bar (mounted as it came out of the box) & rod ended LCA's (lower hole), PHBR & chassis-mount T/A (PA -1)
Stock front & rear shocks & springs
Hardtop & non-TS car
3,380# w/o driver (Cat Scale weight, but it seems too light) (plan on re-weighing elsewhere)
No roll control or two-step (burnouts in 2nd heel-toeing & rolling after staging-yep, several red lights)
About 4,000 rpm launches
Spinning 15-20' out then hooking well
Straight and smooth every run

Best overall run out of 11 was ...

0.895 RT
1.933 60'
7.544 ET
103.32 MPH

... best RT was 0.573

... best 60' was 1.794

... best ET was 7.536

... best MPH was 106.00


I am hoping to get this car in the high 6's/high 10's with minimal effort N/A. Looking at the mph, I think it has plenty in it to get there easily. My plans before hitting the track again are ...

Less tire pressure
Properly adjusting the Spohn Drag Bar as specified by the directions (i.e. raise up the front, sit in the car, measure at the door jamb .... etc.)
Installing a roll control, two-step and shift light
Front and rear shocks (probably decided on Strange DA's)
More track time

Once I edit them, I will post a few GoPro videos, but until then, a few photos for those who like to look at pictures like I do ...

Leaving for the track ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_4399.jpg

Rear suspension ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_3521-1.jpg

The QTP's ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Dsc_4381.jpg

At the track ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_4402.jpg

One of the better burnouts (heel-toeing is not easy in the burnout box) ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_4549.jpg

Spinning out past the tree ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_4438.jpg

Here is some weight transfer, but not nearly enough ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Image2.jpg

Just a nice ass shot ...

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab147/annetteandbrian/Camaro%20SS/Miscellaneous%20Posts/Dsc_4461.jpg

One of my first runs (from the windshield) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLkW4HXZ08

.... another from the rear left quarter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxQS5q0BfdQ

... another from the trunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYzZwGLuEck

Follow http://www.youtube.com/user/BrianSFGA?feature=mhee for all the GoPro clips.

Scoggin Dickey
03-06-2012, 11:01 AM
Thanks for beating on our 402 :D Glad to see you putting it to good use.

SuperSlow02
03-06-2012, 11:08 AM
Soooo much potential... Lol. Good luck with future mods, the car will be a beast for sure

BrianSF-GA
03-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Thanks for beating on our 402 :D Glad to see you putting it to good use.

I am glad I could be of service .... :nod:

speedtigger
03-06-2012, 01:52 PM
That is a some great MPH.

BrianSF-GA
03-06-2012, 02:30 PM
Soooo much potential... Lol. Good luck with future mods, the car will be a beast for sure

I am thinking those few mods will get me there .... next year will come a roll bar, T-56 build, MC/bleeder & bellhousing.

BrianSF-GA
03-06-2012, 02:37 PM
That is a some great MPH.

I was pretty disappointed with the first slip until I saw the MPH and then I knew there was potential. Ultimately, I think it did really well considering the track, no roll control or two step and I was only able to get the tire pressure down to what ended up being 18# cold (I was trying to bring it down in increments).

smok'nZ
03-06-2012, 07:47 PM
mid 7's is good for an 11.5 i went 7.506@96 and 11.555@121 th400 he would probally go 11.5@125ish

TransAmWS.6
03-06-2012, 11:23 PM
MPH is impressive I definitely think it has 10's in it, very nice looking car as well. That track looks kind of sketchy however :eek2:

moge11
03-07-2012, 12:01 AM
when it hooks, expect to drop a full second off those times...

BrianSF-GA
03-07-2012, 08:27 AM
mid 7's is good for an 11.5 i went 7.506@96 and 11.555@121 th400 he would probally go 11.5@125ish

Yea, I figured mid-7's with that 1/8 time, but I am hoping for something better with shocks, roll control, 2-step, less psi and better track prep/track.

alan2000T/A
03-07-2012, 09:05 AM
roll control and two-step is overated!! Once you get the anxious bugs out of the driver mod 3 foot burnouts are a breeze!!

For example mine goes 7.0s at 97-99 and never saw your MPH! Huge potential. Just the springs and shocks alone will be drastic on your car.

Did you remove the front sway bar by chance? You'll see mid-10s in no time at all and look good doing it! I find 12-15lbs of tire pressure the sweet spot.

BrianSF-GA
03-07-2012, 10:46 AM
MPH is impressive I definitely think it has 10's in it, very nice looking car as well. That track looks kind of sketchy however :eek2:

I was impressed with the mph too and thanks for the compliments. I am thinking the same about the 10's too, at least I am hoping. Yea, the track is 40 minutes up the interstate and very convenient, but they are celebrating their 50th anniversary ... it is just a local track. I want to run at Commerce, but I think I will have to wait until next year for a roll bar.

alan2000T/A
03-07-2012, 10:50 AM
I was impressed with the mph too and thanks for the compliments. I am thinking the same about the 10's too, at least I am hoping. Yea, the track is 40 minutes up the interstate and very convenient, but they are celebrating their 50th anniversary ... it is just a local track. I want to run at Commerce, but I think I will have to wait until next year for a roll bar.

yup, they'll run you out of commerce after the first run. Won't let you run in shorts either but Wal-Mart nearby has some nice sweat pants...:emb: Forgot to mention Paradise Dragstrip is NOT your friend if you have a manual. You'll roll out of the beams everytime. I quit going there for that reason. Automatic...not problem.

BrianSF-GA
03-07-2012, 11:02 AM
roll control and two-step is overated!! Once you get the anxious bugs out of the driver mod 3 foot burnouts are a breeze!!

For example mine goes 7.0s at 97-99 and never saw your MPH! Huge potential. Just the springs and shocks alone will be drastic on your car.

Did you remove the front sway bar by chance? You'll see mid-10s in no time at all and look good doing it! I find 12-15lbs of tire pressure the sweet spot.

Hey Alan good to see you here ... "anxious bugs"? Hell I was cool as a cucumber ... yea right ... lol. I have at least two vids when I killed it in the burn-out box. I am afraid the roll control is necessary at least at Paradise ... I would roll back out of the "stage" and red light. I finally took my wife's suggestion and used the e-brake to hold it at the line ... it helped alot. The heel-toe burnouts affected my braking too. I felt like I was overheating the rear pads/rotors when it came to the shutdown area as the day went on.

I am thinking the same on the springs/shocks. I think it will do alot for the weight transfer and the adjustable rebound on the rear should help dig in the rear. I was thinking coilovers in the rear for ride height adjustment, but now I am thinking they are not necessary. It seems to be at the right height.

No, have not removed the sway bar yet and is that 12-15# sweet spot on yours hot or cold. I started with 20# cold and worked my way down to 18# hot.

BrianSF-GA
03-07-2012, 11:14 AM
yup, they'll run you out of commerce after the first run. Won't let you run in shorts either but Wal-Mart nearby has some nice sweat pants...:emb: Forgot to mention Paradise Dragstrip is NOT your friend if you have a manual. You'll roll out of the beams everytime. I quit going there for that reason. Automatic...not problem.

My other thought at Commerce was maybe run the 1/8 .... basically ease off after passing the 1/8-mile beams or will they not play that game? Their test n' tune was postponed last weekend for weather and will be on the 16th.

I had heard Paradise was uphill, but wasn't thinking about the starting line ... my first run I staged, it rolled out, red light came on, I waited for the green, got my slip with an 8.8 and almost put it back on the trailer until I remembered that the timer starts when the car first moves not when the green light goes on.

I heard that Brainerd Optimist in Ringgold has new owners and are putting some "big" money into renovating including the track surface. That's another hour up I-75, so we might try that one next.

alan2000T/A
03-07-2012, 11:40 AM
My other thought at Commerce was maybe run the 1/8 .... basically ease off after passing the 1/8-mile beams or will they not play that game? Their test n' tune was postponed last weekend for weather and will be on the 16th.

I had heard Paradise was uphill, but wasn't thinking about the starting line ... my first run I staged, it rolled out, red light came on, I waited for the green, got my slip with an 8.8 and almost put it back on the trailer until I remembered that the timer starts when the car first moves not when the green light goes on.

I heard that Brainerd Optimist in Ringgold has new owners and are putting some "big" money into renovating including the track surface. That's another hour up I-75, so we might try that one next.


Tire pressure...depending on the tires but the Hoosier DRs i was using last i would start at 15 and keep it 15 after each pass. It would grow to 18 or so in a pass. On the slicks i'd do the same thing but between 12 and 15.

The best thing around is Alabama International Dragway in Steele, AL. They won't run you off, go balls out w/ no fear, always MPH's good, as good a hooking track that you can drive to. Its the same distance to Steele as it is to Commerce. Commerce SUCKS unless its the weekend of a national event. My CTS-V couldn't even get traction during the Fast Friday T&Ts there.

But everything you've said, all the pics, potential vids can't trump this line:
I finally took my wife's suggestion and used the e-brake to hold it at the line ... You are a smart man, and having a wife that likes this stuff is awesome!!

TravisMcGill2000
03-07-2012, 08:18 PM
I was at paradise sunday. I was just watching tho. Your car looked great but you could diff use a line lock for the burnouts. Didnt looked like you got the tires hot enough on your passes. I go to that track regularly and the track prep sucks. The mph is also bout 3 to 4 mph high. You should have any problem getting into the 10s with good 60ft tho. congrats

smok'nZ
03-07-2012, 10:44 PM
hell if you dont DD the car remove the sway bar and go back for a better time

z28241
03-07-2012, 11:24 PM
Sent u a PM, hope it helps! Nice car! has huge potential! btw, i see ur rear tires arent screwed to the rims, such as mine and I marked my rear tires and found they are slightly spinning on the rims, wondering/looking at ur h.p. if urs are doing the same?

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 08:13 AM
I was at paradise sunday. I was just watching tho. Your car looked great but you could diff use a line lock for the burnouts. Didnt looked like you got the tires hot enough on your passes. I go to that track regularly and the track prep sucks. The mph is also bout 3 to 4 mph high. You should have any problem getting into the 10s with good 60ft tho. congrats

I couldn't agree with you more on everything. Also, I heard that Paradise was "uphill" and was actually 630' with the time and speed being corrected. Obviously, it IS uphill hence rolling back out of the beems with my M6 so there is no reason not to believe the trap speeds are high. Thanks for the compliment by the way. I am thinking about heading to Brainerd Optimist next time.

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 08:15 AM
hell if you dont DD the car remove the sway bar and go back for a better time

Consider this added to my mods before my next trip.

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 08:30 AM
Sent u a PM, hope it helps! Nice car! has huge potential! btw, i see ur rear tires arent screwed to the rims, such as mine and I marked my rear tires and found they are slightly spinning on the rims, wondering/looking at ur h.p. if urs are doing the same?

Thanks!

Nope, rims are not screwed .... I wanted to be sure I needed to before drilling a new set of RT-S's. I marked and checked, but no spinning. I did have these mounted with the "Dawn trick" on the bead and coated the complete inside and so far are holding 18# since Sunday. Keep in mind that I rarely got them properly heated and didn't get the pressure down enough to hook them. Maybe the next time out I will find that I WILL have to screw them afterall.


By the way, I didn't receive a PM from you.

TravisMcGill2000
03-08-2012, 10:26 AM
Yea it diff up hill. Brainard is were i do most of my racing. Its a lot better track. Next time i see you i will introduce my self. Also like alan said steele is the best track in out area. May wana give it a shot.

alan2000T/A
03-08-2012, 02:04 PM
Thanks!

Nope, rims are not screwed .... I wanted to be sure I needed to before drilling a new set of RT-S's. I marked and checked, but no spinning. I did have these mounted with the "Dawn trick" on the bead and coated the complete inside and so far are holding 18# since Sunday. Keep in mind that I rarely got them properly heated and didn't get the pressure down enough to hook them. Maybe the next time out I will find that I WILL have to screw them afterall.


By the way, I didn't receive a PM from you.

that's because he sent it to me! But i think its been corrected.

On rim screws...being the owner of the same wheels myself...once you air down and hook they will spin. However, i'd start with screwing the inside only maybe even 5 rim screws in line w/ each lug. I think i have plenty i will give you once you get there. Inside only drilled usually stops the tire movement on our power levels. Get 600+ and all out drill is necessary...my opinion only.

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 02:41 PM
Yea it diff up hill. Brainard is were i do most of my racing. Its a lot better track. Next time i see you i will introduce my self. Also like alan said steele is the best track in out area. May wana give it a shot.

Yea definitely introduce yourself .... hell, you can't miss the bright red H2. We met another forum member at Paradise last weekend.

By the way, does Brainerd have open track between rounds on their normal race Sunday?

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 02:46 PM
that's because he sent it to me! But i think its been corrected.

On rim screws...being the owner of the same wheels myself...once you air down and hook they will spin. However, i'd start with screwing the inside only maybe even 5 rim screws in line w/ each lug. I think i have plenty i will give you once you get there. Inside only drilled usually stops the tire movement on our power levels. Get 600+ and all out drill is necessary...my opinion only.

I was afraid I would hear I would have to screw them. If they hook next time and spin on the wheels, I might as well follow Weld's procedures .... 8 screws each side for 1/8-mile times 6.51 - 7.50.

TravisMcGill2000
03-08-2012, 03:15 PM
Brain brainard usally has tnt on friday nites and races on sat. I only go a friday nites. So im not sure how it works on sat.

TravisMcGill2000
03-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Not tryin to jack your thread but alan how much longer till you hit the track again. Im curious on what kind of times your gona throw down.

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 03:38 PM
Brain brainard usally has tnt on friday nites and races on sat. I only go a friday nites. So im not sure how it works on sat.

Brainerd is 1-1/2 hours from Cartersville. If I was loaded, ready to go the night before and drove into the office, I could be there about 6:30. Hmmmm, that would make for a long night, but it might be doable.

Is there a TnT every Friday night weather pending? Have they started already? I have been to their new website, but no new schedule as of yet.

BrianSF-GA
03-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Not tryin to jack your thread but alan how much longer till you hit the track again. Im curious on what kind of times your gona throw down.

No problem. Alan, are you sure you are going to wait to rebuild?

TravisMcGill2000
03-08-2012, 07:44 PM
They havent started yet this season. I heard they are opening at the end of the month. They do run every friday nite and start at 7.

BrianSF-GA
03-11-2012, 06:48 PM
GoPro videos are clipped and I added three views to the first post ... bump to the top!

STOCK12SECZ
03-11-2012, 07:13 PM
Great looking car man. 10's will be no problem. Quick question. Why the Vindicator cam and just Trickflow 215's on a 402?

Sounds very similar to my up :jest:

BrianSF-GA
03-12-2012, 11:25 AM
Great looking car man. 10's will be no problem. Quick question. Why the Vindicator cam and just Trickflow 215's on a 402?

Sounds very similar to my up :jest:

Thanks. The cam package, FAST/NW & TFS215's were on the original LS1 and were transferred to the 402. I wish I had the budget to go to a TFS235 or even a rectangular port setup, but it is pretty strong as is ... 497 rwt at 4,650-4,750 rpm and 508 rwhp at 5,710-6,150 dropping to 470 rwhp at 6,800 rpm. The TFS215's actually flow 266.1/321.8 cc's at 0.600" ... not too, too bad.

alan2000T/A
03-13-2012, 12:13 PM
Not tryin to jack your thread but alan how much longer till you hit the track again. Im curious on what kind of times your gona throw down.

No problem. Alan, are you sure you are going to wait to rebuild?

Well...there's a lot more to it than most know. I've had other problems with the car actually. The motor is actually on a stand right now and the trans is under my work table. My goal is to not rebuild until i can rid myself of the PCM Chip specific to 93s and would really like to rid myself of the opti spark altogether. I have heavily considered LSX conversion but haven't made any decisions. For now it all sits quietly in my garage...in my way! If staying LTX which is the easiest thing to do, i'd really like to do the EFI Connection 24x harness LSX PCM conversion...but have spent all the cash i can for a while. So it rests...

alan2000T/A
03-13-2012, 12:20 PM
Brian,
we've all been there man, but after watching the vids...seat time has you 1/2 second plus as is! the 6 speed just becomes part of your own body after about 30 passes! That car is bad and its just a matter of time before its breakin' necks and cashin' checks :devil:

BrianSF-GA
03-13-2012, 01:16 PM
Brian,
we've all been there man, but after watching the vids...seat time has you 1/2 second plus as is! the 6 speed just becomes part of your own body after about 30 passes! That car is bad and its just a matter of time before its breakin' necks and cashin' checks :devil:

Time and money will tell .... Uncle Sam will have his hand out in about a month, so it will be several weeks before I can get back out there.

WheelsUp84z
03-19-2012, 06:02 PM
2 step and line lock are a 6 speed racers best friend. With 1/8 mile trap speeds like that, you'll be in the 6's soon. My formula was trapping 102-103 with 6.8x 1/8 mile times. 60 fts were low to mid 1.5's. I was on the same tires and gear.

BrianSF-GA
03-19-2012, 07:37 PM
2 step and line lock are a 6 speed racers best friend. With 1/8 mile trap speeds like that, you'll be in the 6's soon. My formula was trapping 102-103 with 6.8x 1/8 mile times. 60 fts were low to mid 1.5's. I was on the same tires and gear.

I knew they would be my best friends before I even hit the track, but I wanted to at least get it there even though it wasn't completely prepared. With some decent burnouts and consistant rpm launches with the roll control and 2-step, I am confident 6's are in it. Thanks for the comments and you have a quick ride yourself.

djfury05
03-28-2012, 07:15 PM
Great mph! You've got high 6's easy. The first time you cut a 1.5x 60 ft you'll be high 10's.

BrianSF-GA
03-29-2012, 08:37 AM
Great mph! You've got high 6's easy. The first time you cut a 1.5x 60 ft you'll be high 10's.

Thanks ... we will see what the next trip to the track brings.

The line lock and console switch plate are sitting on the counter, the 2-Step is on its way and the rear coilovers will be here Friday.

Spellbound
04-06-2012, 11:00 AM
That is a cool track. It looks like they just blocked off a country road.

crmartin99
04-07-2012, 05:31 PM
Brained is doing a pretty good overhaul pass it everyday. Hopefully it will be good, that track has the potential to be a great eighth mile track. Should open up in a couple more weeks strong what I'm hearing.

crmartin99
04-07-2012, 05:33 PM
From what I am hearing* posted from my phone lol

TravisMcGill2000
04-07-2012, 06:15 PM
Cant wait till they do. Ready to knock dust off my junk

BrianSF-GA
04-07-2012, 10:44 PM
That is a cool track. It looks like they just blocked off a country road.

It's kind of a small town type track, but they are good peple there ... not stuffy at all.

BrianSF-GA
04-07-2012, 10:50 PM
Brained is doing a pretty good overhaul pass it everyday. Hopefully it will be good, that track has the potential to be a great eighth mile track. Should open up in a couple more weeks strong what I'm hearing.

From what I am hearing* posted from my phone lol

Cant wait till they do. Ready to knock dust off my junk

Their phones outgoing message says they have been delayed by rain. I suspect they will have a test n' tune when they open ... that's what I am waiting for at least.

crmartin99 ... since you pass it everyday, keep us updated. Maybe they will post an opening day sign!

It will be a good place to test my rear coilovers, line lock and 2-Step if it opens before April 28th ... that's the day of a Silver Dollar track day that I am still considering.

crmartin99
04-08-2012, 09:32 AM
I will keep my eye out. My car is ready for some tracktime after its two year hiatus so I am itching to get out there also.

BrianSF-GA
04-08-2012, 06:11 PM
I will keep my eye out. My car is ready for some tracktime after its two year hiatus so I am itching to get out there also.

What are you running? Maybe we will see you there opening day.

crmartin99
04-09-2012, 04:42 PM
Just a bolt on mild stall trans am. Hoping for 7.99. Only have ran it one time down the track on motor with this setup (used to have a 100 shot). It went 8.1x on a 28inch tall tire. Just got a set of 275 40 18 drs so maybe it will make it. Going to start working on suspension this year.

BrianSF-GA
04-09-2012, 10:41 PM
Just a bolt on mild stall trans am. Hoping for 7.99. Only have ran it one time down the track on motor with this setup (used to have a 100 shot). It went 8.1x on a 28inch tall tire. Just got a set of 275 40 18 drs so maybe it will make it. Going to start working on suspension this year.

Cool ... I am in the late stages of my suspension buildup. All I am needing now is a set of front DA coil overs and I will be all set except for testing and adjusting.

crmartin99
04-11-2012, 09:44 AM
I'm stock all the way down to the decarbon shocks lol hope to do lca's sfc's panhard bar shocks and gears this year. Get it set up for when I do make some power.

BrianSF-GA
04-11-2012, 10:07 AM
I'm stock all the way down to the decarbon shocks lol hope to do lca's sfc's panhard bar shocks and gears this year. Get it set up for when I do make some power.

I was in the same boat about a year ago ... it all came, but it came slow. I have never had the oppurtunity to mod a car that was not my daily driver ... I love it ... !

crmartin99
04-11-2012, 12:25 PM
Yeah mine was a DD till last summer.

BrianSF-GA
04-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Brained is doing a pretty good overhaul pass it everyday. Hopefully it will be good, that track has the potential to be a great eighth mile track. Should open up in a couple more weeks strong what I'm hearing.

I was able to speak to Steven Farrow at the "NEW" Brainerd Optimist Drag Strip at the main number and he mentioned they were "shooting" for a 1st weekend in May opening with a TnT maybe Friday night the 4th. I am hoping for a TnT on Saturday or Sunday since a Friday night TnT is too far for me or at least some Saturday or Sunday openings for time only runs.

crmartin99
04-17-2012, 03:48 PM
sounds good, in the past, early in racing season they would open up some sundays, but that was usually when it was too cold friday night to open. Might just have to get ur junk ready and leave work early on a friday! lol

BrianSF-GA
04-18-2012, 09:13 AM
sounds good, in the past, early in racing season they would open up some sundays, but that was usually when it was too cold friday night to open. Might just have to get ur junk ready and leave work early on a friday! lol

Yea maybe ... that's a 1-1/2 hour drive for us.