Forced Induction - JY5.3+LS9cam+s475+22lbs of boost in a 88GT

just put in a circle D converter today, blew up a 800hp jegs converter.

220k mile 4.8l, stock heads, gaskets, you name it, 224/224 112LSA cam we got for free, a little bent so we had to hammer it in with the stock truck cam.

borg Warner S475 21lbs of boost, methanol wawa 92 catpiss

15deg of timing, 28x10 slicks out back 3.08 gears, th400 trans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glwRcGjyKtw&feature=youtu.be

took her out for some street testing, hopefully getting it to teh track sunday

Badass

hoping to cut 1.5x on the 2 step and hammer it into the 9s

you guys run some high gears, tall tires, does it help the turbo get spooling on the little 4.8?

LOL. My god. You had to hammer in the cam????? Com on. Will it make it to the track without taking out the cam bearings??? Awesome still though. You guys are always at it. I think i have to move to where you guys live and get in on some of this. LOL:headbang:

That's badass man. I bet you guys laugh at people who say ARP EVERYTHING

That is crazy!!
Any pics of the setup?

That is crazy!!
Any pics of the setup?

i built a turbo kit for this car in a weekend, less than 13 hours

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/IMG_20120225_192802.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/IMG_20120225_210755.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/donsturbonotch4.jpg

You cutoff the sway bar mounts and deleted the powersteering?

You guys have the most hacked together setups I have ever seen!

The best part is, everything you guys build plain out flys!

Good job, I'll be waiting to see what she does!

what are you guys using to tune this thing? injector size? no intercooler?

Lmfao at hammer the cam in lol. With the sound of the turbo makes me want to finish mine

You cutoff the sway bar mounts and deleted the powersteering?

yeah it hasnt had power steering since the swap.
he put the motor in and carbed it
i injected it one weekend, in preparation for the turbo.
then i turbod it 2 weeks later when the parts came in.

but yes, had to cut the sway mounts to fit the truck mani's

what are you guys using to tune this thing? injector size? no intercooler?

i built a MS1 v2.2 for it, controlling the injectors, it has 80lb injectors, it has a 30x12x3 IC up front and methanol.

You guys have the most hacked together setups I have ever seen!

The best part is, everything you guys build plain out flys!

Good job, I'll be waiting to see what she does!

it doesnt have to be pretty to be fast.

Good job, guys... LSX is taking over the whole nation ..

Man I like yalls style

What hotside is on that turbo? I've got a beater 4.8 on 20+psi with the big turbine s480 and it fucking takes forever to spool lol. Its a hell of a ride when it does though ;)

yeah it hasnt had power steering since the swap.
he put the motor in and carbed it
i injected it one weekend, in preparation for the turbo.
then i turbod it 2 weeks later when the parts came in.

but yes, had to cut the sway mounts to fit the truck mani's

What rack are you using?

I'm thinking about deleting my Power Steering and run the truck manifolds I already have. Did you need to relocate the alternator or was it more of a weight reduction removing the alt/PS bracket?

Also, what size is your belt and where is your belt tensioner located?

wow, how much does that thing weigh? I've got a 5.3 sitting next to my G-Body thats been tempting me...

Awesome shit as usual! You keep making me want to rip all my stuff out of my fbody and put it in a light fox chassis

What hotside is on that turbo? I've got a beater 4.8 on 20+psi with the big turbine s480 and it fucking takes forever to spool lol. Its a hell of a ride when it does though ;)

1.05 AR t4

What rack are you using?

I'm thinking about deleting my Power Steering and run the truck manifolds I already have. Did you need to relocate the alternator or was it more of a weight reduction removing the alt/PS bracket?

Also, what size is your belt and where is your belt tensioner located?

stock mustang power rack, just no pump.

we moved the alt to where the tensioner is and used a tractor supply threaded eyelet guy and made our own tensioner, its around a 43 inch 5 rib belt for a VW we use.

we just didnt want to deal with hooking it up and making a relocation bracket.

Awesome shit as usual! You keep making me want to rip all my stuff out of my fbody and put it in a light fox chassis

you can buy a fox body and build an 8.8 for what most people buy a 12bolt for, you are easily dropping 600lbs and the cars are easier to work on.

wow, how much does that thing weigh? I've got a 5.3 sitting next to my G-Body thats been tempting me...

im betting its 2800-3000

since my fairmont is 3125 with me in it and a quarter tank

stock mustang power rack, just no pump.

we moved the alt to where the tensioner is and used a tractor supply threaded eyelet guy and made our own tensioner, its around a 43 inch 5 rib belt for a VW we use.

we just didnt want to deal with hooking it up and making a relocation bracket.

Do you have a picture of the tensioner?

Awesome!

Do you have a picture of the tensioner?

we did it just like my fairmont, i could get a better pic for you tonight if you want, use an alt bolt and take off the tensioner and thread it into the alt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/IMG_20120414_202248.jpg

it doesnt have to be pretty to be fast.

Agreed, I would also like to see some better pics of the alt. setup.....

Agreed, I would also like to see some better pics of the alt. setup.....

here is how i did mine, granted this is not the turnbuckle i ended up using, but gives you the idea (had this one laying around so i tested my theory with it). i ended up making a brace that reinforces the bolt that goes through to the tensioner mount that braces it to the other tensioner mount to keep it completely rigid (not shown in the picture)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/jkarger/a50bfdce.jpg

we did it just like my fairmont, i could get a better pic for you tonight if you want, use an alt bolt and take off the tensioner and thread it into the alt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/IMG_20120414_202248.jpg

So your are only using 1 bolt to hold the alternator?

Yeah, a better picture would help, thanks!

you can buy a fox body and build an 8.8 for what most people buy a 12bolt for, you are easily dropping 600lbs and the cars are easier to work on.

Oh no doubt. My old 80 notch weighed in at 2650 with me in it. I'd loose closer to a 1000lbs.I just can't bring my self to it. Maybe ill get lucky and wad my car lol
I have been searching but can't find a good cheap platform around the Seattle area

112 cam how is that working for you? I like it.

The cam having a tighter lobe is actually helping advance the exhaust in this set-up which with the 4.8 and largeish hot side on this turbo versus the c.i. is really going to help get the exhaust gas out of the motor sooner and help spool the turbo.

In this set-up it works very nicely.

The cam having a tighter lobe is actually helping advance the exhaust in this set-up which with the 4.8 and largeish hot side on this turbo versus the c.i. is really going to help get the exhaust gas out of the motor sooner and help spool the turbo.

In this set-up it works very nicely.

good to know, I am starting on my 4.8 setup and have a 224 112 laying around I may just use it.

Stock head gaskets can take that kind of boost? I have 2 5.3s laying around, is there any difference? I got the Zo6 cam.

what is better 4.8 or 5.3?....what kinda rpms you turnin on the 4.8? reason I ask is because im thinking about selling the new 370 and BEP comp r 91 for a 4.8 or the 5.3 i have and get a s476

Updates?

Did you guy's get the Mustang to the track this weekend?

ah yes we did but the 100 dollar th400 could not hold the power with teh slicks sticking.

so he is gunna drop it off to get built. it sucks, but after all this there is a new trans and converter in the car. we also have a 5.3 thats laying around we are gunna toss in while we pull the motor and trans for more cubes and power.

2005+ engines have LS2 rods which are stronger.... seems like LS1 style rods bend around the 650rwhp mark. LS2 rods can handle 800rwhp+.... or at least some people are crazy enuf on here to push them to those levels :bomb: Keep the RPM's at a reasonable level as that kills rods too.

2005+ engines have LS2 rods which are stronger.... seems like LS1 style rods bend around the 650rwhp mark. LS2 rods can handle 800rwhp+.... or at least some people are crazy enuf on here to push them to those levels :bomb: Keep the RPM's at a reasonable level as that kills rods too.

I would say your statement is true about the 650 mark on 04 and older rods. my 04 lm7 was making 690wheel. Just pulled it apart to change heads and or take a look at wear and tear after 60 or so passes at the track. Found a few bent rods. lol. I was spinning it to 7k every pass though.

I would say your statement is true about the 650 mark on 04 and older rods. my 04 lm7 was making 690wheel. Just pulled it apart to change heads and or take a look at wear and tear after 60 or so passes at the track. Found a few bent rods. lol. I was spinning it to 7k every pass though.

Pics?

what is better 4.8 or 5.3?....what kinda rpms you turnin on the 4.8? reason I ask is because im thinking about selling the new 370 and BEP comp r 91 for a 4.8 or the 5.3 i have and get a s476

with the truck intake it seems to quit in the high 5000 range.

with my ls1 intake on my fairmont peak power is at like 6700

what BOV are you running

denmah doesn't run BOV's ;)

what BOV are you running

denmah doesn't run BOV's ;)


you got it, i am to selfish with my boost, i want it all in the motor...
that lovely sound you hear is the turbo blades crying for help.
my favorite sound.

you got it, i am to selfish with my boost, i want it all in the motor...
that lovely sound you hear is the turbo blades crying for help.
my favorite sound.

This made me LOL.

That vid put such a big smile on my face!!!! I need to hurry up and start on mine!!!! Thanks....im sure my wife will appreciate how much of a whiner Ill be from now till mines turboed.....hahaha

Im a lil late, but that is a sweet build/ride

haha thanks guys, we like to have fun.

Awesome build!

yeah that is a cool sound but has to be super bad for turbo

we've put over 10k miles on turbos like that, and havent had an issue.

and they keep making the same power.

even if you had a BOV it would still sound like that....not sound like that as much but still do it...

denmah doesn't run BOV's ;)

you got it, i am to selfish with my boost, i want it all in the motor...
that lovely sound you hear is the turbo blades crying for help.
my favorite sound.

I laughed so hard at this! I'm about to put the qoute in my signature!

i likes this one!!

what kinda wastegate you using?....after seeing this build im holding off on the 370 and got a 5.3 all cleaned up and gonna use the 91...lol 1.0a/r t6 with a 98/108 exhaust wheel...should be pretty fun once it spools lol

you got it, i am to selfish with my boost, i want it all in the motor...
that lovely sound you hear is the turbo blades crying for help.
my favorite sound.

I LOL'D :jest:

we've put over 10k miles on turbos like that, and havent had an issue.

and they keep making the same power.

Ever thought of using a bosch/ forge audi diverter valve?
Just plumbs back into tract somewhere and takes some stress off the compressor.
I have one for my build. Not a big fan of the bov sound

what kinda wastegate you using?....after seeing this build im holding off on the 370 and got a 5.3 all cleaned up and gonna use the 91...lol 1.0a/r t6 with a 98/108 exhaust wheel...should be pretty fun once it spools lol

x02 60mm like 140 dollars i think from VSracing.

Ever thought of using a bosch/ forge audi diverter valve?
Just plumbs back into tract somewhere and takes some stress off the compressor.
I have one for my build. Not a big fan of the bov sound

nope, i dont even think about it. lol

all i can think about is how awesome that CHEW CHEW CHEW CHEW

sneezing turbo is

oh yes, this car now has a 5.3 with the zr1 cam, still the s475, circle D converter now, and my friend just welded in a roll cage...

still waiting on the built trans with the brake to finish it off!

In for the results!

Denmah what are the specs of the s475?
83mm turbine? Where does it start to spool?

I'm in for the results also

He said it was 1.05 t4...so prolly has a 83 wheel. Think he said it full spool by 4500.

its the 75mm S475 1.05 AR divided inlet

on the 4.0 it was full tilt buy 4500 the 5.3 will be a different ball game.

trans guy called today ironically and said its done, hes gunna pick it up next week.

Thanks, I reread the thread and didnt see full specs. I'm going with the same Turbo on a 1.10a/r . Thanks again for clarifying.

I think I may have read it in a diff thread...I built a buddies car with a 4.8 ls9 cam s472 1.10 83mm wheel and t56 3.42 gear in 3rd it makes 1 psi at 2400 and full spool by 3600 12.5psi. Once the turbo gets lit at about 8psi it really starts to go hard...he needs an auto and it would be nasty

Denmah how do u like the x02 gate? Would you trust it on a $10,000 dollar motor?...lol

I think I may have read it in a diff thread...I built a buddies car with a 4.8 ls9 cam s472 1.10 83mm wheel and t56 3.42 gear in 3rd it makes 1 psi at 2400 and full spool by 3600 12.5psi. Once the turbo gets lit at about 8psi it really starts to go hard...he needs an auto and it would be nasty

Thanks, I'm pretty stoked about my build but it just seems like forever, rent in LA is insane. But soon ill know what boost feels like. I just hope my t56 enjoys it too .
Ill stop taking up room
Sorry denmah.
:hijack:

In for the finished setup. You guys do some badass work and in short time. Next summer we should have a couple turbo 4.8/5.3s running around here, thanks for the inspiration :D

So I guess the football in the spring doesn't work the greatest on the street! Love the build man!

I think I may have read it in a diff thread...I built a buddies car with a 4.8 ls9 cam s472 1.10 83mm wheel and t56 3.42 gear in 3rd it makes 1 psi at 2400 and full spool by 3600 12.5psi. Once the turbo gets lit at about 8psi it really starts to go hard...he needs an auto and it would be nasty

yeah i mean this car is an auto and now has a 4k stall, so its in boost whenever you want even at a dead stop

Denmah how do u like the x02 gate? Would you trust it on a $10,000 dollar motor?...lol

absolutely, ive installed these wastgates in....

10 or more cars? one of our cars uses 2 of them (one as a spool valve)

and they are awesome. never had a single issue.

Thanks, I'm pretty stoked about my build but it just seems like forever, rent in LA is insane. But soon ill know what boost feels like. I just hope my t56 enjoys it too .
Ill stop taking up room
Sorry denmah.
:hijack:

ide say shift slow and let her eat, hoping for the best haha
not a problem

So I guess the football in the spring doesn't work the greatest on the street! Love the build man!

oh it works great! it keeps the car level so the power can work on the tires instead of unloading the car all over the place.

it will eventually need a full rear treatment but for now its working really well

19lbs of boost with the 28 inch slicks on the highway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7nrLNt-pM

its amazing to watch a datalog of the 118 inlet air temp, drop to 80 as soon as the methanol kicks on at 10psi.

Details on the fuel system?

Corvette fuel filter/regulator? Stock mustang fuel lines? Etc...

Its looking bad ass Denmah! What that notch weigh?

Details on the fuel system?

Corvette fuel filter/regulator? Stock mustang fuel lines? Etc...

stock mustang tank
340lph in tank
bosche 044 pusher
half inch line into stock truck intake rails and regulator.
80lb injectors

Its looking bad ass Denmah! What that notch weigh?

i would estimate 2900

nice build

we put her on the trailer and took her to my friends dyno in case we broke anything lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/PhotoJul2660652PM.jpg

we are pleased to say it didnt break.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/PhotoJul2681848PM.jpg

high 18psi range, 15deg timing. unlocked th400 and 28 inch slicks.

ill have a video together then for ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0_o19JEKyE&feature=youtu.be

Cutting it up on the Dyno lol that's something I'd do man. Nice numbers

That was the best dyno vid i have ever seen,for sure the funniest, you guys did great work, that cars going to fly

so, friday night we put it up on jackstands in the driveway, lol and pulled out the seat to install the 5pt harness and weld the rear diff together.

ended up raining and we put shit away till the next day, we worked on it today and it was retardedly hot... put in the extended wheel studs, filled the diff, and finished the harnesses and put a nice childrens football in the rear spring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/413306_10150972995819211_1632995989_o.jpg

I enjoy watching your videos......they make me laugh. Great numbers. is that still with the 224 on 112 cam?

so, friday night we put it up on jackstands in the driveway, lol and pulled out the seat to install the 5pt harness and weld the rear diff together.

ended up raining and we put shit away till the next day, we worked on it today and it was retardedly hot... put in the extended wheel studs, filled the diff, and finished the harnesses and put a nice childrens football in the rear spring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/413306_10150972995819211_1632995989_o.jpg

Quote of the fuckin year!

what 80lb injectors you used to fit in the stock truck rails

what 80lb injectors you used to fit in the stock truck rails

Siemens deka 80lb USCAR EV6
they are taller than stock, so you have to put in nylon spacers and buy longer bolts, but thats what we do on all our truck intake builds.

how much do they cost and where to get them from

lethal performance, 399 shipped always in stock i must have bought 10 sets of them by now

Same injectors i run, got them from ebay for $380 shipped!

Cant be beat for the money!

yeah they are incredible

only using 48% duty cycle on this car, 340lph stealth in tank, 044 pusher, half inch line, and a single meth nozzle kit.

Sweet! You have to post that dyno over on the yellowmullet :D

Sweet! You have to post that dyno over on the yellowmullet :D

i put up the video for them and surprisingly they dont have much to say.

but that is what i figured

Hahaha I love this build!! Absolutely awesome :cheers:

bad ass little setup

thanks hopefully we can get it to the track this week, rained out everyday last week

Can't wait to see track numbers!!!

what's base fuel pressure set at

what's base fuel pressure set at

stock truck rails and regulator 58psi

Nice, wonder what do you think is killing it up top? Peak hp by like 4200 rpm?

Peak hp at like 5-5500

Oh my bad, watched video on my phone and it looked like it said 4xxx rpm.

Oh my bad, watched video on my phone and it looked like it said 4xxx rpm.

it probably did, but that was with no RPM pickup, we just set the tire height and i was off by a bit haha so the RPM is like 1k lower on the graph

Is that an oem color paint? Trying to decide what to paint my junk.

it might be, i can ask my friend, i think its 03 Cobra DSG dark shadow grey

Anymore vids on the gt?? would love to see more!!!

Anymore vids on the gt?? would love to see more!!!

nope, haha not right now, since its done ive been working to get the fairmont done again.

we just gotta get it to the track, so we are gunna shoot for this weekend again maybe, i will get some footage of it at the track for sure.

nope, haha not right now, since its done ive been working to get the fairmont done again.

we just gotta get it to the track, so we are gunna shoot for this weekend again maybe, i will get some footage of it at the track for sure.

Git R Done lol...

my friend who owns it took it out the other day for a drive finally haha he said it feels dangerous and spins the 28 inch slicks like a set of shitty street tires

what a awesome day today haha

we have this TBI 350 powered flatbed towtruck, and the motor was fuckin tired, as you might have seen in the last video hahah

anyway we just happened to have a 454 big block carbed motor sitting in the driveway, yes, in the driveway... so obrien racing LLC decided to install the big block in the towtruck, they slammed it in there super fast, and we put a regulator on the fuel feed and return and got the pressure down to 9psi for the stock quadrajet and got it fired etc, everything is great otehr than having to hotwire the pump to run when the key is on since we are really not using any of the tbi electronics.

so my buddy wires it up no fuse or nothing but does use a relay, well half way to the track, on a bridge... the wires melt lolol

so we used a jumper cable to power it enough to pull off the bridge, and we were following him in another car, so went to auto zone and got the wire and a fuse holder and wired it up and finished our trip to the dragstrip.

first pass in the car we decided why not footbrake nice and see how she does.

10.55 @ 133mph 1.7x 60ft 107 in the 8th. awesome, we are super pleased with this, considering we can turn up the boost a little and even spray it with nitrous if we really want to hahah.

the next two passes were off the trans brake but although they look great because of the squat you can also see the car fishtailing and spinning 1.8 60 and going 10.60 and 10.71 i think, ill be cutting and uploading the video shortly.

but i figured you would all enjoy the sloppy story.

he also knocked the rear view mirror off today on a launch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zhl8puctBM&feature=youtu.be

Niceee.
How much boost?

18lbs, we are gunna push for 22 total

What cam does this 5.3 have?

What cam does this 5.3 have?

it says in the subject... but its a ls9/zr1 cam

like 211,230 560-580lift at 122 split i believe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzTcX5hm2AM&feature=youtu.be

22lbs of boost, ls6 intake

it picked up 40whp from the truck to ls6 intake.

the rest was PSI's!

if it sounds like it hiccups its because it does, no other tuning other than WOT haha its really fat in the mid range

goddamn. this thing should move out nice.

stock head bolts?

goddamn. this thing should move out nice.

stock head bolts?

its studded with 30 dollar 5.7 gaskets too.

this is the motor we tightened the head studs on with the impact gun.

its studded with 30 dollar 5.7 gaskets too.

this is the motor we tightened the head studs on with the impact gun.

Which studs? ARP or eBay?

arp studs

its studded with 30 dollar 5.7 gaskets too.

this is the motor we tightened the head studs on with the impact gun.

LMAO!!!! You guys are insane.

good video, but why hide behind the pole??;)

We do the same thing, when pushing something harder than we should, we stand way back, and I don't know that it would help if something went wrong.

:jest:

good video, but why hide behind the pole??;)

We do the same thing, when pushing something harder than we should, we stand way back, and I don't know that it would help if something went wrong.

:jest:

haha thats my friend corey, he gets nervous, im in both cars tuning and flooring them lol :burn:

let me tell you what this ebay boost controller. 15 dollars!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/IMG_20120411_165513.jpg

2psi for every full turn on this setup, super accurate, linear and reliable.
just looking out for you budget guys haha

denmah....How high did you turn the 4.8? Gonna turn my buddies 4.8 up to 16-20psi and maybe 7k rpm.....sound ok?

let me tell you what this ebay boost controller. 15 dollars!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/IMG_20120411_165513.jpg

2psi for every full turn on this setup, super accurate, linear and reliable.
just looking out for you budget guys haha

Thanks for the info. I just ordered one.

denmah....How high did you turn the 4.8? Gonna turn my buddies 4.8 up to 16-20psi and maybe 7k rpm.....sound ok?

yeah we would peg ours off the limiter relentlessly at 7000 on 20+lbs lol

quick update for this car, it went 10.20 @ 137 ripping a IC coupler in half at the 1200ft mark on the first pass.

quick update for this car, it went 10.20 @ 137 ripping a IC coupler in half at the 1200ft mark on the first pass.

What did you guys do different from last time out???

yeah we would peg ours off the limiter relentlessly at 7000 on 20+lbs lol

good good i like to here it...lol 10.20 is ripping for sure! whats the rig weigh? how much meth you spraying?

let me tell you what this ebay boost controller. 15 dollars!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/denmah/cars/IMG_20120411_165513.jpg

2psi for every full turn on this setup, super accurate, linear and reliable.
just looking out for you budget guys haha

Link to that controller?

Link to that controller?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NXS-MANUAL-BOOST-CONTROLLER-100-ROCK-STEADY-NO-SPIKING-/260344245934?hash=item3c9db9eeae&item=260344245934&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_1465wt_1069

also known as the home depot controller....

What did you guys do different from last time out???

it has strange adjustable shocks in the back and its making 607rwhp
came off the brake light at like 3200 and it went like 1.60 lol
gunna replace that coupler and set the 2 step higher should rocket!

good good i like to here it...lol 10.20 is ripping for sure! whats the rig weigh? how much meth you spraying?
3305 with him in it and a tank of gas, its the largest single nozzle we could order with a cooling mist kit

i have no idea how much, its about 1 air fuel point or more

its studded with 30 dollar 5.7 gaskets too.

this is the motor we tightened the head studs on with the impact gun.

do you purposely put everything together half ass to see what you can get away with before you blow shit up? doesn't make too much sense to me

do you purposely put everything together half ass to see what you can get away with before you blow shit up? doesn't make too much sense to me

to me, half ass, and spending the time to tq them all down with a tq wrench yeilds the same result.

why take the time to use the tq wrench.

when and if i knock a ringland out of this motor i doubt it will be because of the impact gun, more than likely way too much hp and or timing for the piston to handle is what i will suspect, so i dont see the point in "doing it right" matter of fact i dont see using the impact gun as "doing it wrong"

just like i dont see whats wrong with speeding on the highway everyday.

i spent majority of my time first learning about cars doing everything "correctly" and having shit break anyway. i figure i am doing pretty good my own way now.

and i certainly mean no offence to the people "doing it right"

hope you understand.

to me, half ass, and spending the time to tq them all down with a tq wrench yeilds the same result.

why take the time to use the tq wrench.

when and if i knock a ringland out of this motor i doubt it will be because of the impact gun, more than likely way too much hp and or timing for the piston to handle is what i will suspect, so i dont see the point in "doing it right" matter of fact i dont see using the impact gun as "doing it wrong"

just like i dont see whats wrong with speeding on the highway everyday.

i spent majority of my time first learning about cars doing everything "correctly" and having shit break anyway. i figure i am doing pretty good my own way now.

and i certainly mean no offence to the people "doing it right"

hope you understand.

i definately understand your philosophy, but there's some things that just aren't worth overlooking... when you're talking about saving yourself 10mins of time, or $30. haha. badass build none the less. that car is def a street animal.

When you can score motor's for less then $100, who gives a fuck?

You guys represent us budget guy's well!

Man I enjoy your efforts and you are willing to share info, thanks denmah

not a problem, glad i can help, i hand out my MS1 tune file whenever people ask for it too, haha if you ever need a startup tune for megasquirt and turbo LSX i have em.

ive even tested and flashed ms boxes for members.

i had people help me learn too, so i feel like its only right.
ive learned alot from turbo forums and this site.

i dont mind showing my mistakes, most of the time people jump in and help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSN1PeDKns&feature=youtu.be

10.23 @ 140 today
23psi

workin on the 60 yet

Have you guys tried pushing the truck cam, if so , How far. I just read the FearMont thread on TTF.

I think I want to do the ZR-1 cam but its appx $250 for the cam and install pieces. I cant find any of the swap pieces around here cheap/free.

If the truck cam falls hard at 5500 Ill have to suck it up and do the cam. I want to spin it up to 6800-7000 on my Junkyard build that I decided on after reading about the FearMont !


Ill also be using stock engine management so what do I need to do to get the front read 58X cam sensor to read correct on the 24x PCM. I think I saw where you posted to swap the outer 2 wires on the sensor ??

Have you guys tried pushing the truck cam, if so , How far. I just read the FearMont thread on TTF.

I think I want to do the ZR-1 cam but its appx $250 for the cam and install pieces. I cant find any of the swap pieces around here cheap/free.

If the truck cam falls hard at 5500 Ill have to suck it up and do the cam. I want to spin it up to 6800-7000 on my Junkyard build that I decided on after reading about the FearMont !


Ill also be using stock engine management so what do I need to do to get the front read 58X cam sensor to read correct on the 24x PCM. I think I saw where you posted to swap the outer 2 wires on the sensor ??

if you have a 24x engine, you need the 1x cam gear
58x engine needs the 4x cam gear, but should be front read from the factory.

you do have to move the wires to the front cover, and swap the outside wires.

we are going to be pushing the stock cam on the sunbird we built, 4.8l
we did made 500whp with that engine and the stock cam thru a th350

Have you guys tried pushing the truck cam, if so , How far. I just read the FearMont thread on TTF.

I think I want to do the ZR-1 cam but its appx $250 for the cam and install pieces. I cant find any of the swap pieces around here cheap/free.

If the truck cam falls hard at 5500 Ill have to suck it up and do the cam. I want to spin it up to 6800-7000 on my Junkyard build that I decided on after reading about the FearMont !


Ill also be using stock engine management so what do I need to do to get the front read 58X cam sensor to read correct on the 24x PCM. I think I saw where you posted to swap the outer 2 wires on the sensor ??
the ls6 z06 cam is a drop in and works very well on 4.8 and 5.3 motors i might even try it in a 6.0 some day.

the ls6 z06 cam is a drop in and works very well on 4.8 and 5.3 motors i might even try it in a 6.0 some day.


and it goes for 200-250 used and do not pop up very often.

The ZR-1 Cam is $98 new :hail:

Just have to use the front read cam sensor.



I would prefer to have the Z06 cam for a reasonable price but if the price is the same id have to go with the ZR-1

if you have a 24x engine, you need the 1x cam gear
58x engine needs the 4x cam gear, but should be front read from the factory.

you do have to move the wires to the front cover, and swap the outside wires.

we are going to be pushing the stock cam on the sunbird we built, 4.8l
we did made 500whp with that engine and the stock cam thru a th350


Cool- thanks for the response- I knew about teh cam gear from reading about your hard start issues when you had the wrong cam gear in there.

I just want it to pull to 6800-7000, didn't know how bad the stock truck cam will hurt the RPM.

we went to maple grove today with the impact head studded piece of shit notch today and went 9.82 @ 139
ill get some video uploaded then when i am done with it!

Hell yeah! Thats awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN7Xlfokgkw&feature=youtu.be

thats awesome gives me some hope

this car is cool, but it doesnt give me that special feeling like the fairmont and the others.

why doesnt the flat bed have a lq4? i bet it would be a lot better in everyway.

I like this car. Much less of a hunk of shit lol, not that the other stuff isn't cool.

Where you from? I'm about half an hour from maple grove, and I've been thinking about ditching the lt1 for a turboed 5.3!

this car is cool, but it doesnt give me that special feeling like the fairmont and the others.

why doesnt the flat bed have a lq4? i bet it would be a lot better in everyway.

haha i know what you mean, the tow truck? we might lsx the thing eventually at the time we had the 454 laying around and it was easy to install without doing fuel pumps, injectors, megasquirt, msd, etc etc.

I like this car. Much less of a hunk of shit lol, not that the other stuff isn't cool.

haha :D
it was a yellow hunk of shit in someones yard before we go it lol

Where you from? I'm about half an hour from maple grove, and I've been thinking about ditching the lt1 for a turboed 5.3!

im upper macungie near allentown