How to connect T56 hydraulic clutch lines to MC and reservoir ?
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How to connect T56 hydraulic clutch lines to MC and reservoir ?
I'm researching parts for an LS1 and T56 swap into a 96 b-body. Here's a pic of the driver's side trans hyd lines. Let me know if there is a prob viewing the image.
As I understand it, that black thingamabob at port B requires a special OE master cylinder and crimped hose. In this case, for an 04 GTO, I priced rockauto at $320. ouch
Now, if I wanted to use a cheaper/better generic alternative, Fbody MC for instance, what would I need to connect the hi and low side of the hydraulics ? compression fittings ?? what size ?? Can I do this without pulling the trans from the bellhousing ?
As I understand it, that black thingamabob at port B requires a special OE master cylinder and crimped hose. In this case, for an 04 GTO, I priced rockauto at $320. ouch
Now, if I wanted to use a cheaper/better generic alternative, Fbody MC for instance, what would I need to connect the hi and low side of the hydraulics ? compression fittings ?? what size ?? Can I do this without pulling the trans from the bellhousing ?
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Speedway motors makes an adapter that converts the fitting to AN-3
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/search-515-1396.html
And a part to convert the MC to AN-3
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/LS1-an...Kit,25018.html
Then all you should need is an AN-3 line
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/search-910-318463.html
While you're at it add a remote bleeder
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...to-ls1-f-body/
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/search-515-1396.html
And a part to convert the MC to AN-3
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/LS1-an...Kit,25018.html
Then all you should need is an AN-3 line
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/search-910-318463.html
While you're at it add a remote bleeder
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...to-ls1-f-body/
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Thank you, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
ahh, so I'll have pop the gearbox off the bellhousing to access the rollpin holding the adapter and line to the throwout bearing ?
If I wanted to avoid doing that, couldn't I cut the existing fitting off and use a compression fitting on the line ?
Edit: I just went thru the clutch faq/stickies, and w 68k+ miles on this unit I'll probably be wanting to change the throwout bearing and clutch anyway. Hmmm, more money. Probably better than doing it after it's in the vehicle.
Thanks again for all the links Popin'.
ahh, so I'll have pop the gearbox off the bellhousing to access the rollpin holding the adapter and line to the throwout bearing ?
If I wanted to avoid doing that, couldn't I cut the existing fitting off and use a compression fitting on the line ?
Edit: I just went thru the clutch faq/stickies, and w 68k+ miles on this unit I'll probably be wanting to change the throwout bearing and clutch anyway. Hmmm, more money. Probably better than doing it after it's in the vehicle.
Thanks again for all the links Popin'.
Last edited by attilahooper; 07-16-2012 at 08:23 PM.
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You know I don't have a T56, I found the parts above with a quick google search. But it looks like that first fitting will go right on your part B with the trans still hooked up.
AN lines are the way to go. Once you have the correct adapters it is easy to pull the lines as needed. And unlike flared fittings AN stuff can be removed and reconnected multiple times without worrying about leaking. AN lines come ready made in pretty much any length you need. When I redid my brakes I came real close to replacing everything with AN stuff.
And I agree, I would replace the throwout bearing while the motor is out of the car.
I would never use a compression fitting on a clutch line. Too much pressure.
AN lines are the way to go. Once you have the correct adapters it is easy to pull the lines as needed. And unlike flared fittings AN stuff can be removed and reconnected multiple times without worrying about leaking. AN lines come ready made in pretty much any length you need. When I redid my brakes I came real close to replacing everything with AN stuff.
And I agree, I would replace the throwout bearing while the motor is out of the car.
I would never use a compression fitting on a clutch line. Too much pressure.
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By the way... you can get the remote bleeder from Speedway Motorsports as well which is cheaper than the the price Tick has for the same thing. You'll also save shipping and drama from Tick when everything comes from one place.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/T56-Re...der,41385.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/T56-Re...der,41385.html