Gears & Axles - will the stock rearend hold or waste money




trans_am_2000
08-03-2012, 04:32 PM
I'm looking to get around 400 hp out of my car, not sure where i sit now worth mods in sig, but everyone says the rearend's don't hold in these cars. I was talking to a local shop today that runs a couple of these cars and they say that beefing up the rearend will be fine for my hp. also wanna go 4.10 gears. so now i dunno what to do, chime in please :corn:


Kingc8r
08-03-2012, 05:12 PM
With a M6 I'd invest in a properly built rear. You might be alright with stock gears and a aiding clutch dumps MAYBE lol

Mike Morris
08-03-2012, 06:13 PM
I wouldn't on a stick shift cart


msydow
08-03-2012, 06:26 PM
i have broken a lot of 4.10's. if you figure 500 bucks a pop whether its gears or diff it adds up really quick. if you dont plan on running the car on the track and staying on street tires you'll probably be ok for a while.

Johnnystock
08-03-2012, 07:10 PM
Waste

ULTIMATEORANGESS
08-04-2012, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't on a stick shift cart

i know youre an expert but i agree. you might want to consider an auto conversion if youre stuck with building a 10 bolt.

camd01silv
08-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Got a 12 bolt I'm kinda wanting to sell that has a posi and 4.11 gears... Does make some gear noise but it is solid as a rock. Used to have an M6 in this car and this rear held up just fine. I put 370hp on the ground and broke my stock rear the first time I half ass launched it with drag radials.

OutrunNAScaR14
08-04-2012, 10:40 PM
12 bolt

bill12690
08-05-2012, 02:13 AM
Another vote for 12 bolt.. I'm still on stock rear but never really launch the car and it isn't making much more power than stock. Heard plenty of stories of breaking 10 bolts, so unless your going to drive it like a grandma or not really launch it, get a new rear.

4.10s will also be weaker than stock 3.42s

garygnu
08-05-2012, 10:41 AM
you probably can find a used 12 bolt or 9" in the used parts section for $2000 or less.

trans_am_2000
08-05-2012, 08:24 PM
i know youre an expert but i agree. you might want to consider an auto conversion if youre stuck with building a 10 bolt.

Hahah i would never convert a car, depreciates it in my mind, and I just sold my auto for a 6 speed lol:drive:

trans_am_2000
08-05-2012, 08:26 PM
you probably can find a used 12 bolt or 9" in the used parts section for $2000 or less.

I will likely try and pick one up over the winter if i can find a good deal

1981TA
08-07-2012, 12:30 AM
out of ignorance (I'm not a 4th gen owner), how viable is sticking in a 10-bolt from something bigger or older (8.5" ring gear)? They seem to be relatively cheap (compared to 12 bolts and 9" axles) and pretty damn strong.

nomasterase
08-09-2012, 10:55 AM
i think it would be a great upgrade but there is no such thing as a bolt in 8.5 10 bolt for these cars the money youd have to spend on fabrication for the torque arm and other suspension brackets will put you in the 12 bolt price range :/

BriancWS6
08-09-2012, 11:22 AM
Total waste of money unless your gonna stay on street tires, on the street, and not beat on it too hard. I broke my 10 bolt twice before I gathered up enough money to put a 9 inch under it. If your gonna spend the money, might as well get the 9" over the 12 bolt. It's stronger.

85Iroc
08-09-2012, 03:04 PM
I agree it's a total waste of time. Met a guy at the track in Huntsville that put over $1,000 in his 7.5 and it broke on the first launch.

85Iroc
08-09-2012, 03:05 PM
i think it would be a great upgrade but there is no such thing as a bolt in 8.5 10 bolt for these cars the money youd have to spend on fabrication for the torque arm and other suspension brackets will put you in the 12 bolt price range :/

Not if you have a good friend that can fabricate :)

nomasterase
08-12-2012, 12:34 PM
in that case best of luck

BlackLT1Z
08-12-2012, 01:10 PM
I HAD a built 10 bolt. Just broke it at the track on street tires. 3500 rpm dump took it out. LOL

1981TA
08-12-2012, 01:21 PM
if there is any interest, I have a cleaned/painted 8.5" 10 bolt housing, new GM posi unit (looks like Eaton), Bolt-on Moser 31 spline axles with Ford bearings (eliminates C-clips), Moser weld-on Ford bearing ends for 10-bolt, new seals, shims, crush sleeve and bearings, a new GM 3.23 ring and pinion set, and solid crush sleeve replacement. I was in the middle of setting up the axle for road racing, made all the purchases, and then lucked into the 3.73 I've got in the car.

The stuff listed above is unassembled and NIB. The items are located in Homewood, IL. Contact me by PM if interested.

k_garretson23
08-12-2012, 01:35 PM
youre lucky its holding now. If you enjoy spinning with bad tires then sure itll hold a little longer but throw tires at it and itll grenade. 4.10s will actually make it weaker because the teeth on the ring and pinion will be thinner. Invest in a good rear, youll be happy you did.