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Old 10-28-2012, 06:29 PM
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Default C5R Timing Chain + LS2 Dampener + 3-bolt Cam gear??

I'm doing a cam swap in my 2010 Camaro. I will be swapping out the single bolt stock cam for a 3-bolt TSP 231/236 cam.

During the swap I would like to install:

- C5R Timing chain
- LS2 Dampener
- 3-Bolt Cam gear (4X reluctor)

Are the 3 of these compatible? I've been told the LS2 Dampener will not work with this cam gear?? Can someone confirm/deny this?
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I don't see why it wouldn't. The dampner and gear have no relationship. The only difference between that gear and a typical ls1 gear is the pickups on the front.
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I didn't think anyone made a 3-bolt style 4x cam gear?
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Originally Posted by S10xGN
I didn't think anyone made a 3-bolt style 4x cam gear?
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-3969-g...-reluctor.aspx
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Here too
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...Store_Code=LPE

Yes it's all compatible, that's the way to go if you ask me, the spring tensioner sucks.
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Originally Posted by litle88
Here too
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...Store_Code=LPE

Yes it's all compatible, that's the way to go if you ask me, the spring tensioner sucks.
Shut up *******. The spring tensioner is the ****. That block of plastic sucks. I bet you got it in your pile.




BTW...how's the weather out there?
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Lmao!! Are you gonna run a tensioner? Lol
Nice and cold! The longest summer of my damn life finally ended! March-September there was 80's/90's/110's/110's/90's/85's every damn day, the **** got old lol.

How's your pile? you POS!
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I'm going with the block of plastic. I like the idea behind the ls3 spring loaded one, just not it's reputation for failure.

I'm ready for summer. I hate cold weather, and this frankenstorm **** is not helping.

My pile is coming along. I got a mountain of **** in my garage my friends dumped off last week they haven't got out yet, but everything is machined ready to go. Just need odds and ends here and there. It's the nickel and dime stuff that is gonna kill my tax refund.

I got 2 350's to build and a 5.3 for my friends before any of my car stuff takes place. Wanna come help?
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And a transmission and t case...and 2 4 wheelers. I'm swamped.
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I have 12,000 miles on my dads ls3 tensioner and mine has 1000 miles with 50 7500rpm passes on it with no issues

Not sure what some people are doing to break these but it must be good. Talking to the dealer they don't see them either

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Good to know guys...thanks for the confirmation!
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That is exactly the setup (3 bolt cam, LS2 tensioner, 4X cam gear) in my 2010 Camaro LS3.
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We use the same setup you have listed. Works great.
Spring tensioner? I've personally taken out 5 broken ones. Mostly from other shops that swear they are fine. You don't know they are broken till you take it apart.
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Cool same here

Originally Posted by blake b
That is exactly the setup (3 bolt cam, LS2 tensioner, 4X cam gear) in my 2010 Camaro LS3.
katech c5r chain
3 bolt cam
ls2 tensioner
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No tensioner here. Double roller ftw.
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Just replacing the chain, gear and tensioner alone will not ensure trouble free times ahead.

The best way to ensure your engine is protected from chain failure is with a Cloyes Billet set. They include the C5R chain, 'oversized' cam & crank gears - eliminating the slack found in stock applications and other aftermarket sets, billet hardened gears and torrington roller bearing.

For best practice also fit an LS2 damper to prevent the chain from whipping back under rapid deceleration - the main cause of chain failure.

Part #'s:

9-3672TX9Z - kit with gears, C5R chain, 3 bolt cam, 4X sensor
9-5491 or 12581276 - LS7 damper (includes bolts) OR
9-5417 or 12588670 - LS2 damper (includes bolts)

The LS2 & LS7 dampers are interchangable on engines without a dry sump oil pump as the only difference is the LS7 damper is 1.1m thinner to clear the dry sump oil pump. The reason they are a different colour is to identify the parts when assembling engines at the factory.

Cheers!

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This is what you need:

C5R Timing Chain + LS2 Dampener + 3-bolt Cam gear??-kgrhqr-m-e-rgngg8lbp17qd6s9q-60_35.jpg
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Originally Posted by Vade Velociter
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For best practice also fit an LS2 damper to prevent the chain from whipping back under rapid deceleration - the main caise of chain failure....
Cheers!
Sorry for a bit of a hijack, but would appreciate other opinions on this. (I assume that "damper" is "harmonic balancer".) I have an LS2 and am considering an underdrive ATI balancer which is much lighter than the stock balancer and don't want that to increase risk of chain failure. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by mrvedit
Sorry for a bit of a hijack, but would appreciate other opinions on this. (I assume that "damper" is "harmonic balancer".) I have an LS2 and am considering an underdrive ATI balancer which is much lighter than the stock balancer and don't want that to increase risk of chain failure. Thanks.
No the ATI balancer would be a good choice. By damper i mean the chain damper (in the picture) as opposed to a tensioner as it doesn't apply tension to the chain rather dampens it when it wants to whip back.
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Originally Posted by Vade Velociter
No the ATI balancer would be a good choice. By damper i mean the chain damper (in the picture) as opposed to a tensioner as it doesn't apply tension to the chain rather dampens it when it wants to whip back.
Thanks! I've seen the harmonic balancer called many different things and therefore wanted to be sure. End-of-hijack. Sorry.


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