Archdog7564

i just got a 112 lsa in my camaro and it sounds bad ***. at first without ls1 edit, the idle sucked but after ls1 eidt, the idle is perfect, no flaws at all

i got:

336.1 hp
399.7 trq

no dyno tricks

Cam Dyno with LS1 Edit

i love my cam
222/226 .566 .569 112 lsa Comp Cam

my next mods are going to be LS6 intake first and then some better exhaust from what i have now,,, hooker shorties, going to try first on how much i can get the most out of them first then mids or long tubes

if any questions, ask away

<small>[ March 19, 2003, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: Archdog7564 ]</small>

I8COBRA

iTrader: (56)

Can you post your dyno sheet?

Your tq seems like a spike, doesnt sound right.

JS

iTrader: (4)

Those are not locked dyno numbers.

JS

kick_*ss

iTrader: (1)

Agreed, tq does seem high

Jimmy98Z

Here is a link to his dyno sheet http://archdog75.tripod.com/dyno_2.html
Jimmy

98TAauto

iTrader: (2)

looks like abig tq spike?? but i could be wrong. Thats one reason i havent dynoed my car yet. Im not worried about hp or tq. All I care about is getting from point A to B quicker <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

but for no stall those tq numbers are very high!

now if you had a 3600 or so stall those tq numbers would be right on <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Archdog7564

there are no dyno tricks done

so why so much torque?
i do have an aftermarket torque convertor, i bought my car used and some of my stuff came with it already so i am trying to figure out what i have

thanks for the replies

thanks jimmy for the link to my site

98TAauto

iTrader: (2)

yeah but you have a baby stall... 2200? I couldnt even feel my 2800yank when i got it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

slap a 3600+ in her then she would put down some awesome numbers!

its just that guys with heads/cam and high stalls only see 399-415tq and thats why I was questioning if it was a spike <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

i'd be happy with 400tq with my 224/224 and 3600stall car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Archdog7564

so why so much torque?

thanks for your replies

Fenris Ulf

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Archdog7564:
<strong> so why so much torque?

thanks for your replies </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As stated above, the converter was not locked.

Archdog7564

the converter was locked

Horsepower Store did one dyno and it was 391
SpeedWorks did another dyno with 399

Ragtop 99

iTrader: (7)

Good news and bad news:
Bad news:
converter was not locked. That is the classic unlocked dyno curve.
Good news:
336 HP unlocked with your mods is a good result. With some good long tubes headers you'll be over 350 hp.



Alternatively, you can continue to believe the converter was locked, making you the first cam only LS1 without both longtube headers and an LS6 intake to make 399 ft-lbs of torque and that your tuning is totally f**ked and that is why your HP is so low. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Kenny H

Geesh, thats an unlocked convertor, case closed....

Archdog7564

well, when i had the dyno was done,,, Horsepower Store told me that they were going to not unlock the convertor

i thought that unlocking the convertor is a dyno trick, causing like a couple of extra hp

i am going to go back and ask them again and ask them why my torque is so high, i am curious and thats what they told me and they did the dyno

if someone can explain the difference between unlock and locked, i did try a search

thanks for the replies

Ragtop 99

iTrader: (7)

Locked is like when you are diving down the highway. The PCM engages the lock-up clutch and that causes your converter's input rpm (i.e. the engine rpm) to be equal to the converter's output rpm.

Unlocked is like when you take off from a light and the converter is slipping into a higher rpm. The PCM automatically unlocks the converter at WOT. This allows the car to get to the higher rpm band for more power and eliminates a lot stress that would be applied to be the lock-up clutch if the converter didn't unlock.

The only way you dynoed locked was if:
1) your PCM had been changed to do this (In Edit, I use different shift points and lock-up settings when I dyno) or
2) they had a Tech II or similar device to override the computer during the dyno session, or
3) you have installed a manual lock-up switch and they used that.

Archdog7564

thanks for the reply

i am going to ask what exactly did becuase i am curious,,, they did tell me that they were not going to do any dyno tricks. i may of misunderstood about how to dyno an automatic, this was first ever dyno for my car and me.

is it becuase i have a torque convertor? and that increases the torque on a dyno because it doesn't know better


thanks for all the replies

StrongWS6

Oh man, not the Horsepower Store. The new management sucks. I called up about an install price and the guy asks me what kinda car, I say 02 Trans Am he says, 5.0...I was like WTF??? Then he asks what motor, LT1 or LS1...Jesus christ I wanted to hang up as soon as possible. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

<small>[ March 22, 2003, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: StrongWS6 ]</small>