cobra / SS - Cali emissions
11-23-2004, 03:25 PM
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cobra / SS - Cali emissions I need your guys help here - I have a 98 SS and want to make around 450hp to the wheels. But I live in Cali, My question is, I have a chance to buy a 03 Cobra for about 24 grand, and I know that with just BPU and a ported blower they put down damn near 500 to the ground.
Iam no mechanic and cant change cams or even headers everytime I need to get smoged, witch is what I would of been doing to get around the emissions here. Iam sure that Stage 2 5.3 heads with 224 114lsa and some shorty headers will pass, but will only put down about 400hp. Also dont want to go the FI route, cause when its all tuned and installed it will be about 7 to 8 grand. Iam really leaning towards the cobra, but wanted to get some opinions on this before I sell my SS (whitch I really dont want to do). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Kory
Iam no mechanic and cant change cams or even headers everytime I need to get smoged, witch is what I would of been doing to get around the emissions here. Iam sure that Stage 2 5.3 heads with 224 114lsa and some shorty headers will pass, but will only put down about 400hp. Also dont want to go the FI route, cause when its all tuned and installed it will be about 7 to 8 grand. Iam really leaning towards the cobra, but wanted to get some opinions on this before I sell my SS (whitch I really dont want to do). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Kory
11-23-2004, 03:35 PM
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thing you gotta remember is 500 at the wheels in a 03 isnt the same as 500 at the wheels in a SS...the 03 is alot heavier car, so that 500rwhp car is comprable to a 420rwhp SS.....
Still, if i were you i'd go with the '03....i love f-bodies and all, but that's about the only car(other than a Z06) that i could see myself trading in on. plus, emissions would be alot easier to pass with that car
Still, if i were you i'd go with the '03....i love f-bodies and all, but that's about the only car(other than a Z06) that i could see myself trading in on. plus, emissions would be alot easier to pass with that car
11-23-2004, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tim99ws6
thing you gotta remember is 500 at the wheels in a 03 isnt the same as 500 at the wheels in a SS...the 03 is alot heavier car, so that 500rwhp car is comprable to a 420rwhp SS.....
Still, if i were you i'd go with the '03....i love f-bodies and all, but that's about the only car(other than a Z06) that i could see myself trading in on. plus, emissions would be alot easier to pass with that car
Still, if i were you i'd go with the '03....i love f-bodies and all, but that's about the only car(other than a Z06) that i could see myself trading in on. plus, emissions would be alot easier to pass with that car
11-23-2004, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 777
i don't like the way the mustang's drive as far as sitting, gas, brake, steering..
11-23-2004, 07:59 PM
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Thanks for the responses, the first thing that I would do is get the weight down as much as I could on the cobra, those things are pigs. Unit213 what made you choose the Cobra over another Camaro?
11-23-2004, 08:14 PM
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i sold my ws6 to my cobra i would do it again if i had to. i love my cobra the seats the look the whine i'm in the 11's right now the only way i hit 11's in my ws6 is on jice who knows what my cobra will run with 75 shot.dont for get this, "i dont regret what i have done only what i havent."
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11-23-2004, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 9camaross8
Unit213 what made you choose the Cobra over another Camaro?
I agree with jrp.
11-23-2004, 10:51 PM
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If your going to keep the car stock! It wouldn't be too bad to get the cobra. Rear end sucks, clutch sucks. All the million hp cobra's around hear aren't that fast! It's all an opinion. Looks sold me. The question is..... what will make YOU happy? Good luck.
11-23-2004, 11:57 PM
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jrp - I agree with you 100% on that. Cali emissions are insane, I just dont see the point of doing heads and cam and spending all that money, then in the end wind up only making maybe 400hp, when it could be alot more. I know people here are making that with cam only! Man that pisses me off.
thanks again for the all the help.
thanks again for the all the help.
11-24-2004, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Rear end sucks, clutch sucks. All the million hp cobra's around hear aren't that fast!
Stock clutch can handled 600hp/700tq. It may slip a bit, but that's to be expected. Stock IRS is good for 10's at high 120's. IMO, people blow up their IRS and burn up their clutch because they don't know how to drive. I have had zero IRS or clutch problems (knock on wood).
11-24-2004, 08:10 PM
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You've got to be kidding right?
Stock clutch can handled 600hp/700tq. It may slip a bit, but that's to be expected. Stock IRS is good for 10's at high 120's. IMO, people blow up their IRS and burn up their clutch because they don't know how to drive. I have had zero IRS or clutch problems (knock on wood).
Stock clutch can handled 600hp/700tq. It may slip a bit, but that's to be expected. Stock IRS is good for 10's at high 120's. IMO, people blow up their IRS and burn up their clutch because they don't know how to drive. I have had zero IRS or clutch problems (knock on wood).
and 9camaross8, another thing to ponder. the cobra has a factory forged bottem end. swap the pulley, add some bolt ands you'll be "smog what"
. to me FI is really the only way to go in cali for power and still pass emissions. you can boost the fbody but they you have to start worrying about the bottom and rear end. FWIW i went n/a, but im not smog legal
