RevGTO

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Well, I swapped out my Nittos for KDWS a couple of weeks ago because of the approach of winter. Today I was driving by our empty church parking lot and saw my daughter's Grand Am sitting there with another Grand Am next to it and a guy working on her driver's door. So I whipped in there, and he saw me coming and hopped into his car. I tried to block him, and stopped, but he got around me and sped off. I whipped the car around and got on it (nowhere near WOT) and next thing I know I'm doing donuts in a cloud of smoke while he speeds away.

This car is useless without sticky tires ... like the time last winter some guy in a Taurus SHO was challenging me on the street and I could do nothing ... anything approaching 1/4 throttle and I'm spinning. It's going to be a long hard road till next spring ... Sorry - just had to get it off my chest.

vMaster0fPuppets

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I don;t like the sounds of this. I was planning on getting a set of KDW soon, becuase I heard they were stickier tires. I'm debating between Nittos and thew KDW.... It's really that much of a difference?

unit213

Try adding 300-400rwhp and look for traction on the street.

RevGTO

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KDW's are much stickier than KDWS which are all-season snow compatible. Nittos are stickier yet. But neither Nittos or KDW's are cold-weather compatible.

N4cer

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Even at very low partial throttle there's no reason that a Grand Am should outrun you. That sucks.

kyles2000z

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just wondering but why did you take offense to him workin on her driver's door. and why did he speed off like that? sorry but im 19 and really dont like dad's like that! you gotta bond with the daughters boyfriends dont scare them away

N4cer

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I'm kinda confused as well. Are you saying he was trying to break in? Or that he hit the car and was trying to fix it? Or he was a Goodwill Mechanic, who sneaks in at night and fixes broken cars? 'Cause if he's that, I need him to come my way.

87formy

It sounds like he was trying to steal something, just the mention of two grand am's sounds like enough to assume that. Too bad your car isn't more like the night rider, then you would've owned him.

we_todd_did

iTrader: (97)

Sounds like driver error to me.

BLKWS.6

I have heard KDWS's suck.

FireHawkMike

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kdws's are good in the snow, suck on the street the kdw2 is a much sticker tire but forget abotu them and cold weather.

SladeX

I've had KDWS and KDW tires.

KDWS S means snow, and it will "work" in snow, but albeit not well. I got caught in a freak snowstorm with them on and found myself trying to drive in a foot of snow, but I couldn't make my own lines too well in the snow and was a good 10-15 miles slower than traffic could muster.

KDW will NOT work in cold weather, let alone snow. A combination of wet and temps hovering under 40F and it's pretty much a crap shoot on launching your car from a stop or navigating a right or left turn at normal speeds. Even in dry cold weather, I could easilly break traction at the worst times in normal driving. I didn't feel safe at all driving my car the few times I drove it in those conditions.

If you really want to drive in winter, a set of snow tires minus sized (225/60/16, or 215/65/16) will work well. Get a extra set of rims, it's worth it in the long run if you do drive in winter.

StoleIt

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Unless there was snow on the ground I don't think its the tires fault.

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

Nittos dont stick that great unless they are heated up in my experience

The Butcher

Scenario is a factor. Saying things like "Drivers fualt, and unless there was snow..." Think about the situation. It's not like he was carefully navigating through the fabeled "shopping cart slolem" at your local Walmart. He was wanting to catch a guy breaking in.

mcamp001

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well no offense, but you need to learn how to handle the power. Of course if you mat it, you will do nothing but spin the tires man, learn how to keep it on the edge of traction and you will do better to catch much slower cars. If it erupts nto a smoky burnout, it's time to ease off the gas a bit, lol

bigbird01

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This thread was all I could think about last night, I ended up having a dream I couldnt get my kumho's to spin.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed

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The KDW is ok in rain. Just sucks any other time.

RPM WS6

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IMO, Nitto DRs and KDW preform nearly the same in terms of warm & dry weather traction. That was my experiance after having both on the same car at the same power level.

I've never had KDWS though.

RPM WS6

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My guess is the guy was trying to break into the car to steal it. I don't think his daughter was even out there when this happened.